I doubt quantum gravitation and consciousness have much to do with each 
other.

LC

On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 7:37:12 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> My thinking is literally we need 'better' equipment to properly answer 
> either quantum gravity or consciousness. These are surely not 
> civilizational priorities and so the progress is limited. If CERN or RIKEN, 
> or Fermilab cannot delve into what a proton yields, then this is where we 
> are. Neither have we really cranked up machinery to address consciousness. 
> We're doing better on the neuroscience thing then we have in the past, 
> because the machinery used until then very recently is way too simple. 
> Encephalographs + white lab coats just ain't going to produce.   For 
> cosmology, yeah, with better telescopes we detect more granular detail. Or 
> what's an exo-planet for?  
>
> A deeper question on how to get there is the possibility that machine 
> intelligence could accelerate discovery and invention? This ought to be a 
> meta-goal for our species. Medical science and pharmacology is a sure 
> beneficiary of AI, and thus the human body becomes a beneficiary in this 
> fashion. 
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com>
> To: Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 3, 2021 7:08 pm
> Subject: Re: Consciousness research
>
>
> Welcome back Philip. Long time since I heard from you. We really do not 
> know for sure. Consciousness is something we experience subjectively and 
> has some elusive nature with objectivity.  
>
> LC
> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 1:11:24 PM UTC-5 cloud...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> “The growing field of AI requires hardware that can host adaptive memory 
> properties *beyond what is used in today’s computers*,” he added. “We 
> find that nickel oxide insulators, which historically have been restricted 
> to academic pursuits, might be interesting candidates to be tested in 
> future for brain-inspired computers and robotics.”  
>
> Consciousness is beyond what understood to be conventionally 
> computational. It that sense, it cannot be simulated, it can only be 
> synthesized.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com 
> wrote:
>
> Opinion, does this development have any real impact on the subject of 
> whether a machine can eventually be conscious. This is a paper from Rutgers 
> and seems to be along the lines of the topic.  
>
> https://www.newswise.com/articles/researchers-find-human-learning-can-be-duplicated-in-solid-matter
>
> The method seemingly can be imitated.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be>
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> Sent: Wed, Sep 8, 2021 9:10 am
> Subject: Re: Consciousness research
>
> It is never to late, but I guess they remain in the Aristotelian 
> framework, which makes them impossible to take into account the elementary 
> consequences of Mechanism in metaphysics. If you can sum up their 
> approaches or just tell me their basic hypotheses ... In my university, it 
> too time, but eventually there is a course on consciousness, but only the 
> "weak problem" is allowed to be researched, which is better than nothing. 
>
> Bruno
>
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:27:03 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78UL1gYhXI 
>
> Four researchers on consciousness who take a operational and scientific 
> approach and have a program to try to test theories of consciousness. 
>
> Brent 
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