Am Mi, 12. Okt 2022, um 21:28, schrieb spudboy...@aol.com: > See, I have never seen Climate Change as the big threat. Thugs with nukes, > now that is a species killer.
Unfortunately, both can be a big threat at the same time. During the global warming hiatus of the previous decade there might have been some leeway to hope that the models were wrong, but not the empirical evidence is overwhelming. > Telmo, I offered to polemicist JC, the offer for Putin to place nukes back > into Cuba (1962) as a withdrawal from the Ukraine. > Putin gains instant assurance of US destruction, and he and his thugs get a > Face Saving thing. Putin already has instant assurance of US destruction. Like the other major nuclear powers, he has the nuclear trident. > Will this work? I don't know? Would any US general or admiral think this > might be a good idea? Have never asked one. Even if it did, this would be seen as a concession. Have you seen the reactions to Elon Musk's recent tweet proposing a compromise? Independently of our opinions on Musk, I assume that he has more privileged information than us, and his tweet made me think that nuclear escalation is a real possibility at the moment. > Conceivably there could be money to be had in all this of course. It's an > idea. As economist Walter Williams said, "Life often isn't about fixes, it's > often about trade offs." I agree that life is often about trade offs (not necessarily of a financial nature), but I'm not sure how a profit motive could help here. What's your idea? > China bribes everyone in the world and often gets its way, in this fashion. > No need to give up on the human aspect. China developed a symbiotic relationship with the economy of the western world. Putin is not acting as a rational economic agent, not even by a long shot. He cares about other things. > Technology IS harder to overcome than human nature. Otherwise, you'd be > grilling sausages by your Mr. Fusion Grill. Mr. Fusion Grill still seems to have some hairy theoretical problems to overcome. The Coulomb barrier says hi. Telmo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net> > To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 10:01 am > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes > Asteroid Into New Orbit > > > Vulcanoes and asteroids are super-easy stuff when compared with the > species-wide evolutionary step that would be required for us to be safe from > global nuclear conflict. We seem to be going in the opposite direction on > that one, as far as I can tell. I am a bit pessimistic on this. I suspect it > will require the trauma of a near-extinction event. Crossing my fingers that > it doesn't happen in our lifetimes. > > Telmo > > Am Mi, 12. Okt 2022, um 15:51, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: >> Which I surmise that with the 32 second degree of change, this method is >> real life does likely prevent, given enough time/warning will prevent >> another Tunguska, another Cretaceous-Paleogene Extinction Event, which seems >> to be the big success of our age. >> >> Next to work on, preventing super volcanoes, and yeah, maybe a nuclear >> attack? >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> >> To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 6:36 am >> Subject: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes >> Asteroid Into New Orbit >> >> >> Check out this article from The New York Times. 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