Columb Barrier!! Oh ye of little faith!
Concessions that don't make things worse are livable, and that is the 
difference. As an American General during the START talks said, more weapons 
just to make the rubble bounce? 
China, If I go by a leaked secret discussion plan about taking the war to the 
Americans. The plan was a direct copy of the successful 1940 Plan that Hitler 
used to invaded Norway. Needless to say the CCP likes lots of Nazi things 
really.Here was Hitler's 
plan-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Weser%C3%BCbung
The PLA would land troops using disguised cargo ships which they have plenty of 
and access to ports, just like Adolf. It even sounds like it could work, 
Telmo!https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-15/china-russia-or-north-korea-would-strike-u-s-homeland-in-a-war?leadSource=uverify%20wall
Putin's nobody I trust but I do trust US ability, when its not fucked up by the 
Progressives to conduct defense and retaliation.

Today, Joe has be doubtful.
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#yiv8042747904 p.yiv8042747904MsoNormal, #yiv8042747904 
p.yiv8042747904MsoNoSpacing{margin:0;}Am Mi, 12. Okt 2022, um 21:28, schrieb 
spudboy...@aol.com:

See, I have never seen Climate Change as the big threat. Thugs with nukes, now 
that is a species killer.  


Unfortunately, both can be a big threat at the same time. During the global 
warming hiatus of the previous decade there might have been some leeway to hope 
that the models were wrong, but not the empirical evidence is overwhelming.


Telmo, I offered to polemicist JC, the offer for Putin to place nukes back into 
Cuba (1962) as a withdrawal from the Ukraine. 
Putin gains instant assurance of US destruction, and he and his thugs get a 
Face Saving thing. 


Putin already has instant assurance of US destruction. Like the other major 
nuclear powers, he has the nuclear trident.


Will this work? I don't know? Would any US general or admiral think this might 
be a good idea? Have never asked one.


Even if it did, this would be seen as a concession. Have you seen the reactions 
to Elon Musk's recent tweet proposing a compromise? Independently of our 
opinions on Musk, I assume that he has more privileged information than us, and 
his tweet made me think that nuclear escalation is a real possibility at the 
moment.


Conceivably there could be money to be had in all this of course. It's an idea. 
As economist Walter Williams said,  "Life often isn't about fixes, it's often 
about trade offs." 


I agree that life is often about trade offs (not necessarily of a financial 
nature), but I'm not sure how a profit motive could help here. What's your idea?


China bribes everyone in the world and often gets its way, in this fashion. No 
need to give up on the human aspect.


China developed a symbiotic relationship with the economy of the western world. 
Putin is not acting as a rational economic agent, not even by a long shot. He 
cares about other things.


Technology IS harder to overcome than human nature. Otherwise, you'd be 
grilling sausages by your Mr. Fusion Grill. 


Mr. Fusion Grill still seems to have some hairy theoretical problems to 
overcome. The Coulomb barrier says hi.

Telmo




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 From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net>
 To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
 Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 10:01 am
 Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes 
Asteroid Into New Orbit
 
 
Vulcanoes and asteroids are super-easy stuff when compared with the 
species-wide evolutionary step that would be required for us to be safe from 
global nuclear conflict. We seem to be going in the opposite direction on that 
one, as far as I can tell. I am a bit pessimistic on this. I suspect it will 
require the trauma of a near-extinction event. Crossing my fingers that it 
doesn't happen in our lifetimes.

Telmo

Am Mi, 12. Okt 2022, um 15:51, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List:

Which I surmise that with the 32 second degree of change, this method is real 
life does likely prevent, given enough time/warning will prevent another 
Tunguska, another Cretaceous-Paleogene Extinction Event, which seems to be the 
big success of our age.  

Next to work on, preventing super volcanoes, and yeah, maybe a nuclear attack? 




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Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 6:36 am
Subject: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid 
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Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you 
can read it through this gift link without a subscription.

NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

The DART mission proved more successful than expected in adjusting the 
trajectory of Dimorphos, suggesting that a deadly space rock could be deflected 
in the future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/science/nasa-dart-asteroid-spacecraft.html?unlocked_article_code=gEJ-HbzE1lhpl_41so6nGsR87wucCD4KRwbeMH_Jsa85yOJfpcCkTAFxKQyeSyUo8YSj-NV_BkKNMR0Sk0RCPGfSjjnBoggROYULK-suIA5tOnCM6I8J8OqiXZYVtBEl4fLNtc_nWtXs4vM0PeC2AlF3c-ZMdRH42JZYRib8ShvdRzVjh6qZHf4N8bRTDI7jBYYeHtaIQPDHFyINEOybyznshcw2-rc_k9OSvGaiIiVVI7bhPzDDoRLtmq5bxXWWdwpQ5G_tcKHHGBTLFmHaCSdi2BHT6KU4AUomz0E4-k-7oawzoD85yq76PSAZ27WrERcQx8_kPY2lCXb-FhythROZt9SiztQ&smid=em-share

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