We ain't got (Forget Chomsky!) Marvin Minsky's Guy in a Box. Hal-9000 ain't
arrived yet.
Now, if one is less driven by theory/ideology, one may focus on what is best
for the human species?
What would be best would-be innovation machinery geared toward making
discoveries and inventions that human research teams, that we wouldn't arrive
at for decades of a century.
There's 8.2 billion people on the planet if we need somebody to chat with, make
rhymes, sum up permitted news items, articles, before 9/21/2021. (Chat3). For
science articles it works less well then a parrot. I have tried.
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From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net>
To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 6:46 am
Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky
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Am Mo, 13. Mär 2023, um 05:45, schrieb Brent Meeker:
An operational test for intelligence requires that ability to act in the world
to achieve goals. LLM's are intelligent in that they act to satisfy prompts.
If you went to the beach and you said to a crab, "Write in the sand a short
poem about waves." and the crab scratched out:
Born
of wind and
earth's embrace
an ocean's memory of
storms beyond the horizon
its undulating information uselessly inscribed
in the meandering sand
finds voice at last
its fall a sigh a
single syllable
of surf
You'd think the crab was pretty smart. An LLM could do that. The only reason
for us thinking it is not intelligent is that we know how the LLM does it.
When I first took a class in AI fifty years ago at UCLA. The Professor
explained that the definition of intelligence was "whatever computers can't do
yet."
My first AI class was 27 years ago. The professor also mentioned that, but he
started with the question: "why do we study artificial intelligence and not
artificial stupidity?", and his answer was: "because stupidity is not a scarce
resource".
Telmo
Brent
On 3/12/2023 9:29 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Does it really display intelligent behavior, and now you will need to define
intelligent behavior with testable parameters. Do humans display intelligent
behavior? How often, and how consistently? Many say crows do.
This was part of my reason in hectoring JC on this. A neurobiologist tells, via
research how parts of the human brain behave, and thus produce intelligence and
(non-philosophically) consciousness. What part of the server farm enacts the
illusion (I think) of intelligence?
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From: Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 12:18, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 8:57 PM Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 04:12, Lawrence Crowell
<goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember no matter haw complex an algorithm it is ultimately a lot of Boolean
switching acting on what ever data is dumped into it.
That means that if the entity displays intelligent behaviour, Boolean switching
acting on whatever data is dumped into it can generate intelligent behaviour.
Boolean logic gates (and, or, not) are universal. There's no finitely
describable behavior that can't be replicated by the repeated application of
boolean logic gates paired with a memory.
Yes. But more generally, even from a position of ignorance, if you don’t
believe that something made from electrical circuitry (or whatever) can display
intelligent behaviour, and something made from electrical circuitry does in
fact display intelligent behaviour, that means you were wrong.
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