On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 9:12 PM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:38 AM Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > The violation of Bell's Inequality proves that things are not realistic >>> or not local or both, >>> >> >> *> I have said that and you denied it.* >> > > Show me where I denied that!! I had been saying that things are not > realistic or not local or both for well over a decade, but thanks to > Leggett I now know that the answer is BOTH. > > >> *> QM is non-realistic anyway.* >> > > The experimental violation of Bell's Inequality proves that any theory > that hopes to explain how the world works (QM for example) must be not > realistic or not local or both, but the experimental violation of Leggett's > inequality proves that any theory that hopes to explain how the world works > must be *BOTH* nonlocal *AND* non-realistic, period. QM and MWI pass both > the Bell and the Leggett test, that doesn't prove that either is correct > but it does prove that whatever theory turns out to be true cannot be local > and cannot be realistic. And neither test is able to prove that QM or the > MWI is wrong. > > >> >> "*Bell's inequality is established based on local realism."* >>> >> >> *> False.* >> > > I didn't say that, the science journal Nature said that. So now according > to you not only is Wikipedia wrong but so is the science journal Nature, > the oldest and most prestigious science journal in the world. Do you > really think that people should believe you and not them? Bruce, nobody > wins every argument, with this constant denial in the face of mounting > evidence you're starting to make a fool of yourself. > You made a fool of yourself a long time ago. You didn't read Bell's papers with sufficient attention, if at all. Bruce > Testing Leggett's Inequality Using Aharonov-Casher Effect > <https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02492> > > >> *> MWI is both non-realistic and non-local.* >> > > I agree, so what are we arguing about? Yes MWI is both non-realistic and > non-local, if it was not it would not have passed BOTH the Bell and the > Leggett > inequality and it would no longer be in agreement with all known > experiments and it would no longer be a viable interpretation of Quantum M > echanics. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLQjBJyKu%2BiQYcQxVafz1rPaHnewBQxrT%3DKBpDHTciZhJQ%40mail.gmail.com.