What do you conceive of as "true". I think of all mathematics as having
the form: Given these axioms and these rules of inference then these
theorems follow. Bruno only posits a small part of mathematics as
true. I'm not sure how he relates "true" and "exists".
Brent
On 9/11/2024 8:36 PM, Liz R wrote:
The question is whether or not maths exists independently of the
material universe. Some people think it does (that it's true in all
worlds, regardless of their laws of physics) while others think that
it's a human invention approximating to physical phenomena. Personally
I'm inclined to think that maths is true regardless of which universe
you're in, or indeed true whether or not any universes exist. This is
Max Tegmark's view, for example, as described in his book "Our
Mathematical Universe". His idea (which is in the same ballpark as
Bruno's, but approaching it from, as it were, the opposite direction)
is that maths is necessarily true, and therefore makes a foundation on
which to build an ontology that gets "somethig from nothing".
I'm not sure how one can test this, however.
On Wednesday 11 September 2024 at 08:53:55 UTC+12 John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 4:44 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
wrote:
*>*///Given any sequence of states you can label them so as to
represent a computation. So I think the physics is really
incidental to the computation./
*You need to make the labels,and making something involves a
change, and a change cannot happen without the involvement of
matter and the laws of physics. *
*
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** John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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