On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 9:17 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> BTW, the Ignorance Hypothesis trivially implies Realism.*


*It makes little difference with the ignorance hypothesis implied because
it's not true. What the winners of the 2022 Nobel prize proved is that the
universe (or multiverse) is either non-local or non-realistic or both.  I
think it's probably local but non-realistic, Many Worlds is local but
non-realistic.*

 *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

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> On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
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> On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 1:16 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> *> Why PRECISELY is the Ignorance Interpretation false?*
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> *In science it's impossible to ever be 100% certain that something is
> true, but you can be 100% certain that something is false. We can be 100%
> certain that the naïve ignorance interpretation is false because it fails
> the all important experimental test. It makes the wrong prediction.  I
> already pointed that out in my long post about Bell's Inequality. *
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> *If you want to know if the ignorance interpretation is true or false you
> can't just sit in your arm chair and think about it, you've got to get your
> hands dirty and perform an experiment. People have performed such an
> experiment, and received the Nobel Prize in 2022 for doing so, and the
> ignorance hypothesis, at least the naïve version that involves local hidden
> variables, fell flat on its face. *
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> That's exactly what I wanted to know; I was even going to suggest it
> myself; whether Bell experiments falsify the Ignorance Hypothesis. BTW, the
> Ignorance Hypothesis trivially implies Realism. AG
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