On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 1:25:32 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 11/9/2024 10:00 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 4:39:37 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 9:40 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *>>> Why do you characterize the explanation of the possible insufficiency of our concept of space, a NON-local hidden variable?* *>> Because if an event occurred 4 light years away and happened LESS than 4 years ago and yet it still affected you then that affect was non-local, because that's what "non-local" means. Is such an affect possible, does Quantum Mechanics permit it? Nobody knows, but if I were betting I would bet not.* *> Your first sentence requires IMO, more precision. Please re-write it.* *No.* >Are you referring to faster-than-SoL phenomenom? Obviously. You're too cocky. No. Not faster than SoL, but instantaneous. Entangled particles are non-separable. AG Anything faster than light is instantaneous in some reference frame; and goes in either direction depending on the reference frame. Which is a good reason for supposing no information can be transmitted FoL. Brent That's one data point. Another is the fact that neither member of an entangled pair has a preexisting spin before measurement, and that when one of a pair is measured, the other seems to know that value is regardless of the perceived separation distance. So it's reasonable to say we don't know what the hell is going on. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/34474212-158b-4f60-8c35-6dd6dfcaec11n%40googlegroups.com.
