On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:30 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

*>> And for every event, for every point in space and for every instant in
>> time, the square of the absolute value of the quantum wave has a precise
>> number, and it's a number that has profound physical significance. That
>> sure sounds physically real to me! *
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> *> Probability is not an entity!*
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*The dictionary on my Mac says an entity is "A thing with distinct and
independent existence" and the definition of a thing is "**an object that
one need not, cannot, or does not wish to give a specific name to**".
Probability certainly exists, and it has a distinct and independent
existence. It's true that you can't touch probability, but you can't touch
entropy either, but both are "things" that exist in the physical world. *


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> *> Depending on the initial conditions, the wave function might well be
> identically zero at most spacetime points.*
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*S**ure, but I don't see your point. At some places and at some times the
needle on your Fahrenheit thermometer is pointing at zero and you observe
it pointing at zero, and at other places and other times it's pointing at
90 and you see it pointing at 90. Zero is not nothing, it is something
because being not zero is different from being zero; if that wasn't true
computers wouldn't work. *

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*>> the only reason I'm a Many Worlds fan is that it doesn't need to
>> explain what a measurement is, nor does it have to explain what
>> consciousness is, because neither has anything to do with it.*
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> *> So the Many-worlds theory is merely a fantasy, about nothing at all.*
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*So your claim is that any physical theory that does not explain
consciousness, and that means every single physical theory discovered since
Newton's day, is merely a fantasy and is about nothing at all. I
respectfully disagree.  *

*  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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