On 11/12/2024 2:39 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 5:17 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

        *>> Me: Does your preferred quantum interpretation, whatever
        it is, do any better in that regard? If several quantum
        interpretations produce identical observable results then
        Occam's Razor says that the preferred one would be the one
        that makes the fewest assumptions. And that would be Many
        Worlds. I remind you that all those many many worlds are _NOT_
        an assumption, instead they are a _CONSEQUENCE_ of simply
        assuming that Schrodinger's equation means what it says, and
        the equation says _NOTHING_ about a wave function collapsing.*


    /> Schrodinger's equation says nothing at all about the wave
    function. For example, if it is not real but only epistemic, then
    there is no need for a physical collapse./


*If something works, and in this caseworks really really well,then it is not at all clear to me why you should assume that the thing that works so well is not real. *
It works really really well as an epistemic theory.  It doesn't work work well as an ontologic theory because it predicts bazillions of unobservable worlds.

Brent

*And in that context I'm not even sure what you mean by "real". *

    /> The Schrodinger equation does not say that the wave function is
    a physically real object/


*True, and a Newtonian equation for the movement of a billiard balldoes not say that the billiard ball is a real physical object either, therefore I would conclude that the quantum wave function is as real or unreal as a billiard ball. *

    /> //the the wave function can be seen as merely a device for
    calculating the evolution of probabilities/


*OK, but since it has been working so well, why do you assume you should stop using it to calculate thingsafter a "measurement" (whatever that ill defined word is supposed to mean) is made? *
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*J**ohn K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>***
rmw


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