On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 10:08:36 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 11/22/2024 8:24 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 9:01:23 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 11/22/2024 6:42 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 6:21:18 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: I recommend the lectures of Jacob Barandes. He has developed an interpretation of QM which shows how QM is related to classical stochastic processes and which avoids the problems I see in other interpretations. He makes a distinction between ontic and epistemic layers in the interpretations which I think clarifies things a lot. "A New Formulation of Quantum Theory" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshJyD0aWXg "New Foundations for Quantum Theory" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB16TzHFvj0 "Why We Shouldn't Believe in Hilbert Spaces Anymore" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmaSAG4J6nw Of course there are also papers on the same topic: The Stochastic-Quantum Theorem arXiv:2309.03085 The Stochastic-Quantum Correspondence arxiv:2302.10778 The Minimal Modal Interpretation of Quantum Theory arXiv:1405.6755 Brent *Ontic? Is any equation ontic? Have you tried to kick one? AG* Where did I say an equation was ontic? Check your eye sight. Brent I meant to write equation or theory. What's your favorite ontic theory if you have one? AG The phrase was "ontic *layer*" which is just the things you take to exist, e.g. charged particles and photons in QED. It's prior to equations and theories. Brent You'd have to include things which might exist, such as gravitons or tachyons, which is why, IMO, the concept is vacuous and therefore meaningless, and just adds to our confusion. But that's just my opinion and we know what that's worth. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4795bcb6-4e16-4648-a605-df58fa7071e3n%40googlegroups.com.

