On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 9:47 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> On 11/15/2024 8:28 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
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>     You need to assume something like the Kolmogorov axioms of
>     probability anyway, but these are by and large definitional.
>
>     For the rest, the Gleason theorem really does the heavy lifting.
>
>
> But one somehow has to relate the amplitudes of the wave function basis 
> vectors
> to the probabilities. And since the Schrodinger equation is deterministic,
> introducing a probability interpretation is problematic.
>
>
> I never followed that line of argument. I know you've raised this
> multiple times over the years, but it made little sense to me.
>
> For example - in classical statistical physics, the connection between
> entropy and the classical microstate is statistical in nature. The
> assumed deterministic nature of classical microphysics does not
> prevent a probabilistic interpretation of the macrophysics.
>
> It does not prevent a probabilistic interpretation, but it does not give
one either. You have assumed statistical physics, which introduces a large
dose of probability theory. That does not come from the deterministic
theory -- you have to introduce it from elsewhere.

So with quantum mechanics. The wave function, being deterministic, does not
have a probabilistic interpretation until you introduce one from elsewhere.

Bruce

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