Hi at all
Hi Poc

STOP! I do not want political diskussion, I want solutions.
Sorry my mistake, I did not know that this is so highly explosive here.

Regards Ralph


---- Patrick O'Callaghan <[email protected]> schrieb:
> On Sat, 2015-07-11 at 15:39 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-07-11 at 14:09 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > That wasn't the point I was making. You said something about Google 
> > > 
> > > and the NSA. The question of legal decryption is entirely separate.
> > 
> > Another subscriber mentioned Google and the NSA, it wasn't me.
> 
> Apologies, you are correct.
> 
> > Btw. even if mails wouldn't get sniffed and analysed, we can't expect
> > that deleting from a provider's server will really shred the mails on
> > this server and we completely don't have impact to other servers 
> > those
> > mails passed. IMO mails that aren't encrypted anyway should be 
> > deleted
> > after retrieving and they are better preserved on a private computer.
> 
> Unless you're running an SMTP server on your own machine, to which
> everyone who ever sends you email connects *directly* (from their own
> machine, not using a webmail system, and of course using an encrypted
> channel), then your mail is going through multiple intermediaries, any
> one of which can keep a copy of it.
> 
> This is the way email has always worked. Deleting messages from the
> final stage IMAP or POP server after download does nothing to prevent
> this.
> 
> poc
> 
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