This discussion is all very well, but it doesn't really address the
original problem ...

Its obviously attempting to do starttls, but it's failing for some other
reason.  Even if we did try another port/etc, we'd still fail at that
point, since the server said starttls should work.  i.e. we're not even
dropping back to plain tcp either.


On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:45, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> 
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 15:06, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> >   
> > > right, hence the way it is done now.
> > >     
> > Which is sane enough -- it's just that the nomenclature is currently
> > somewhat misleading. 
> 
> *nod*
> 
> > There _may_ be people who want '993 or 143+TLS or 143 plain' but to be
> > honest I doubt they'll be unable to manage with one of the current
> > options '993 or 143+TLS' and '143+TLS or 143 plain'.
> 
> yea, I think they can definetely manage - whether we should change the
> menus to be more clear or something is up to Anna (and how to word
> it). I wonder what other clients like Mozilla do... maybe I'll have to
> fire up ethereal one of these days.
> 
> Jeff
> 

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