On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 23:22, Ronald Kuetemeier wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:23, Not Zed wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 10:29, Scott Otterson wrote:
> > > OK, sounds good.  But, as I understood you this morning, you were
> > > convinced that the PPP problem did not exist.
> > 
> > I've dont plenty of testing with disconnecting, and it works fine.  It
> > takes a while and eventually times out.  If i reconnect the network, it
> > just keeps going again.
> > 
> I thought your college has already established that's a linux kernel bug
> :-).
> Now seriously, what you describe might work, but there is a bug in the
> code. Take a look at the signal handler(s) used by Orbit and Evolution,
> then rfm about socket and socket options. BTW I checked only Orbit
> 0.5.15.  

huh? these are 2 completely separate issues.

Jeff

> 
> Ronald
> 
> > > Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, what's the number
> > > for the open bug on PPP disconnects causing an IMAP hang?
> > 
> >  ??
> > 
> > IMAP and POP are separate.
> > 
> > There might be some threading contention where a thread is 'busy'
> > waiting for a timeout, but it isn't hanging.
> > 
> > 
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 14:22, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > they are 1) unrelated and 2) already reported.
> > > > 
> > > > Jeff
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 17:16, Scott Otterson wrote:
> > > > > Why not?  It's clear that there's a bug in evolution and that it's not a
> > > > > fundamental flaw with Linux.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now, if the stop button bug and the PPP-disconnect-hang bug are
> > > > > manifestations of the same problem, then I agree that it doesn't make
> > > > > sense to file a new one -- that is, if there is a non-closed stop button
> > > > > bug and if it is known that these are really the same problem.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are both these things true?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Scott
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 13:33, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > > > please do not submit new bug reports, thanks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 16:15, Scott Otterson wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes, Ettore, you're right about the stop button not working -- and
> > > > > > > there's at least one bug on it but it was closed as fixed even though it
> > > > > > > wasn't.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is the stop button problem also causing the PPP-disconnect-induced
> > > > > > > hangs?  Or should I file a separate bug?  Anyway, you're right that this
> > > > > > > isn't a problem with Linux: Mozilla on Linux handles PPP disconnects
> > > > > > > just fine.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 11:38, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 13:12, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On reading your response, my first thought was, "Boy, linux must be
> > > > > > > > > > lame," because on Windows, nothing hangs when you lose your PPP -- 
>not
> > > > > > > > > > outlook, not mozilla, not anything as far as I know.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > wonderful about those win32 apis for finding out when the connection
> > > > > > > > > goes down. Not available on linux.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Having the Stop button working properly in all cases in the mailer 
>would
> > > > > > > > be a good starting point though.  ;-)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It is true that we have a bug there, and it can be fixed, and there is
> > > > > > > > no reason to blame Linux for it.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > Ettore Perazzoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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