On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 20:07, Marco Tabini wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 13:46, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > [no cc:s please, I read the list] > > Fair enough. Sorry about that.
No problem. > > > > Huh!? Ok, forget it. > > > > > > Thanks for your summary dismissal. > > > > I'm interested in fighting spam. But I'm also somewhat strict in the use > > of opensource software - I won't use binary only software. > > That's your prerogative, and I respect your point of view, although I do > not necessarily agree with you. I've explained my reasons for the binary > only release, and mentioned that I'm open to providing the source code. Where? I must have overlooked it. > I simply ask that you also respect my point of view and avoid comments > like "forget it", which really do not add to anything other than my > blood pressure :-) I apologize, I should probably have packaged that statement in a bit more wrapping. It would have conveyed the same meaning, though, I fear. > > > And exactly what happens if *you* happen to disagree with spamassassin? > > > > I tweak the rules. It's occasionally necessary, but by now bogofilter > > works very well so I give it more and more weight. I'd say there's <1% > > false negatives and <.1% false positives (and those are mostly from > > discussions about spam, sometimes containing parts of actual spam > > messages - so I can understand that the system gets confused). > > My point is, wouldn't it be better if the system were able to learn to > tweak its own rules, particularly if you could train it to do so > directly from within Evo, rather than by having to change the rules > manually? I'm not interested in creating "the Spamassassin killer" > (pardon the pun)--I'd rather learn from it--but perhaps there is a more > convenient solution. I'd not want my spamfilter in evo - I read mail from various machines, sometimes with different MUAs. My spamfilter should always work. But I agree with you that a self-tuning spamfilter is the ultimate goal, and that MUA functions to easily train it are very convenient. The bogofilter part of my setup already does that, I think that spamassassin will go in the same direction - in the end, a combination with a bogofilter-type approach and a spamfilter (rules based) approach, but with self-tuning weights on the rules will be the best approach. cheers -- vbi -- OpenPGP encrypted mail welcme - my key: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/92082481
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