The same counts for people using email systems though -------------------------- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mellott, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:22 AM Subject: RE: Viewpoints of IM > Ill Add 2 cents to this > > Consider the security ramifications to IM > > While many will ignore or look the other way....it can be significant... > Take the financial industry.... to IM they must/should do a great many > thing's partially by law now.... > > > bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:49 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Viewpoints of IM > > > We've been using IM, and while it can be used to waste time, it is also > extremely handy. Much more real-time than email, but not as intrusive as > a phone call. > > Now, for which IM to use... > > 1. Use external, free IM such as MSN .Net Messenger or Yahoo. This has > several advantages: free, easy to set up, automatically connects your > users with business partners (provided they are using the same service). > The disadvantages are: no logging, no control, conversations traverse > the internet in plain text. There are third-party products that > intercept the communication stream of these free services and give you > logging and control, but they aint cheap. > > 2. Use IM that comes with Exchange 2000. Don't do this! This product is > obsolete, and has been replaced with LCS (live communications server). > If you have Exchange 2000 by way of one of MS's licensing programs, you > are grandfathered in for LCS client licenses. > > 3. Use LCS. Works good (after you manage to wade through the crappy > installation docs). You can control who gets IM, and you can log > conversations (logging is either all or none, though). Logging also > requires SQLServer. LCS runs only on server 2003. Additionally, if you > plan on using a separate logging server, it must run server 2003 as > well. The client software (Windows Messenger 5.0) can be configured to > talk to MSN .Net Messenger Service as well (but external conversations > are not logged). Windows Messenger also has extensive control via group > policies (you can, for example control who gets external IM capability). > There are third-party tools to connect LCS to external IM services, but > they are a bit pricey, and, at least in the case of MSN, require you to > pay a subscription fee for "enterprise" connectivity. > > 4. Jabber. Jabber is the open standard for IM and there are several > servers and clients (free and commercial) that speak the Jabber > protocol. > > > One thing that trips most people up when starting with IM: Windows > Messenger and MSN .Net Messenger are NOT different versions of the same > thing. They are two separate animals. > > MSN Messenger cannot talk to any service other than MSN. Windows > Messenger can talk to Exchange 2000, LCS, and MSN. > > MSN Messenger has more consumer-friendly features (fluff). > > MSN Messenger cannot be controlled via group policy. Windows Messenger > has extensive group policy control features. > > The two CAN co-exist on Windows XP, but cannot on Windows 2K (unless you > do some jiggery). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark > Nold > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:12 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Viewpoints of IM > > > My CEO wants us to install the IM that "comes with" Ex2k. I really > don't want to have our users have access to this as I see it as a > potential waste of time. Of course that's my opinion. > > And why I turn to those that know more than I. I've offered him the > thoughts I have on it: 1) no way to backup/restore IM, 2) creates an > "easy" place to have our corp. policies broken (slander, gossip, sharing > porn sites, etc) 3)no way to track who said what and when 4) waste of > time (OK that's not technical, but still....) > > His come back? "But I read its easy to install and configure and takes > no bandwidth". > > Can this list offer me any other sane reasons not to implement this (or > if you have a good reason to then let me know that too :) > > Thanks > Mark Nold > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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