Norton can get virus defs hourly to the server, just not with the interface
they provide.  You need to google for intelligent updater (or something like
that).  We've got a scheduled task that runs an ftp script to go out and get
the defs.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

I'd have to revoke your warrant this time, NAV is configured just fine, and
when the definitions are up-to-date it will do it's job quite well.
I'm not bashing NAV, until now I have had very few problems with NAV Corp,
and since we came from McCrappy it has been a delight.  The problem this
time is that it took them 3 DAYS to issue the definition update for MyDoom.F
and that's just insane with most of the other vendors had it done in hours. 
Is this going to make me run out and replace our Desktop A/V software, no.
Have I submitted an issue with Symantec, your darn tooting.  This isn't just
a problem with how long it took them to get the def's out to the world, it's
also an issue with their limited live update scheduler.  If I could have set
up the schedule to look every hour (like most of us do with Trend on our
Exchange servers) then our one system would not have been able to get this
virus.  I have also let them know how I feel about that issue as well.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

Easy...you have your NAV/SAV scan all files as soon as they are created,
modified or used...we do.

If it attempts to come in from a webmail account, it will quarantine the
dropper file, as soon as it hits the Temporary Internet Files directory.

If you're having a problem with NAV not catching files, I'd warrant it's a
configuration issue, not a product issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Holtzclaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!


How does this help if they use a hotmail account to get there mail with
Norton on the desktop?

Remember not all users have a brain that is why we have jobs.


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

I dont know about you but I block all .scr, .exe, .pif, etc. and syamantec
strips them out of any zip file regardless of the signature. If it cannot
strip them out or scan inside the zip then it strips the zip file. Problem
solved.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Waters, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!


> You are right about that, however Symantec blew the .F big-time.  We
run
> Trend on our Exchange Server, and Trend on our servers and desktops.
I
have
> been blocking .zip's since the 20th when the .F came out.  Trend had
their
> def's updated within 2 hours.  Symantec did not have a definition out
until
> sometime after 8pm(est) on the 23rd.  How do I know this you ask, well
our
> scheduled live updates run at 8pm and we didn't get the update. 
> Unfortunately for us, one of our users accessed his personnel web-mail
about
> 9am yesterday and got the .F on our computer.  There really was not
good
> reason for an update to take that long, not to mention that before
this
set
> of updates (24th) their last update was the 18th.
> I like Symantec, and I like having different vendors on Exchange and
the
> Desktop, but this time Symantec took it in the a** and we are paying
the
> price.  The good news is it only took out one system, the bad news is
that
I
> am going to be restoring data late tonight to fix what got deleted.
That
> one system had over a hundred .zip files on it, and deposited well
over
300
> out onto the file servers he was mapped to.  Our saving grace is that
no
one
> else opened up one of those .zip files on the server.
>
> We are currently blocking about 50-75 .zip's an hour right now!!!  I
wish
> they would get one of these idiots that write these and cane them in
the
> middle of time square on national TV.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
> I have found you can ask 10 people and get 10 different answers. Do 
> you like Dell or Compaq? Ask 10 people and see what they say.
Mileage
> varies.
> I have had *zero* problems with Symantec and I came over from Trend
who
IMO
> has lousy tech support.
> I have not had a single client or server infected since moving and my 
> updates are almost instantaneous once the Primary server is updated. I
am
> very happy with them!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Holtzclaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:32 PM
> Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
>
> I ran a manual update and it updated to the newest file patterns and 
> went to there site with no answer to that variant. I knew the PC was 
> infected with random zip file start appearing from what Trend
described.
>
> Sorry, if you like Symantec buy U got burned!!
>
> Eric
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:42 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
> Didn't the client force an update or can't you do that with Symantec?
>
> Paul Chinnery
> Network Administrator
> Mem Med Ctr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Holtzclaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
>
> Symantec sucks, one of my clients had many infected PC's with doom.f 
> because there not update for 3 1/2 days and Trend and MacAfee did.
>
> Not to mention the "I love you virus" was updated again by trend not 
> Symantec
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
> That's what I  like about Symantec's gateway . . . gets inside the zip
.
> . .
> of course it is a pain when you *need* to send an EXE but oh well . .
.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:18 PM
> Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
>
> > Wasn't blocking ZIP attachments.  Trend now has a pattern available
as
> well.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Chris H
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
> >
> > It is using the attachments types we all usually block anyway no?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:21 PM
> > Subject: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
> >
> >
> > > I just started receiving messages that are being blocked based on
> > attachment
> > > type.  I believe it NETSKY.C which we don't have a pattern file
for
> it
> on
> > > TREND yet so watch out!
> > >
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