We employ symantec web content filtering to restrict web based email. That covers 90% of it (desktop users). There are still some people that jack around us from home on laptops or go to a POP account with OE.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Holtzclaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!



How does this help if they use a hotmail account to get there mail with Norton on the desktop?

Remember not all users have a brain that is why we have jobs.


-----Original Message----- From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

I dont know about you but I block all .scr, .exe, .pif, etc. and
syamantec
strips them out of any zip file regardless of the signature. If it
cannot
strip them out or scan inside the zip then it strips the zip file.
Problem
solved.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Waters, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!



You are right about that, however Symantec blew the .F big-time. We
run
Trend on our Exchange Server, and Trend on our servers and desktops.
I
have
been blocking .zip's since the 20th when the .F came out. Trend had
their
def's updated within 2 hours. Symantec did not have a definition out
until
sometime after 8pm(est) on the 23rd. How do I know this you ask, well
our
scheduled live updates run at 8pm and we didn't get the update.
Unfortunately for us, one of our users accessed his personnel web-mail
about
9am yesterday and got the .F on our computer. There really was not
good
reason for an update to take that long, not to mention that before
this
set
of updates (24th) their last update was the 18th.
I like Symantec, and I like having different vendors on Exchange and
the
Desktop, but this time Symantec took it in the a** and we are paying
the
price. The good news is it only took out one system, the bad news is
that
I
am going to be restoring data late tonight to fix what got deleted.
That
one system had over a hundred .zip files on it, and deposited well
over
300
out onto the file servers he was mapped to. Our saving grace is that
no
one
else opened up one of those .zip files on the server.

We are currently blocking about 50-75 .zip's an hour right now!!! I
wish
they would get one of these idiots that write these and cane them in
the
middle of time square on national TV.


-----Original Message----- From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

I have found you can ask 10 people and get 10 different answers.
Do you like Dell or Compaq? Ask 10 people and see what they say.
Mileage
varies.
I have had *zero* problems with Symantec and I came over from Trend
who
IMO
has lousy tech support.
I have not had a single client or server infected since moving and my
updates are almost instantaneous once the Primary server is updated. I
am
very happy with them!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Holtzclaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!


I ran a manual update and it updated to the newest file patterns and went to there site with no answer to that variant. I knew the PC was infected with random zip file start appearing from what Trend
described.

Sorry, if you like Symantec buy U got burned!!


Eric


-----Original Message----- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

Didn't the client force an update or can't you do that with Symantec?

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-----Original Message----- From: Eric Holtzclaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!


Symantec sucks, one of my clients had many infected PC's with doom.f because there not update for 3 1/2 days and Trend and MacAfee did.

Not to mention the "I love you virus" was updated again by trend not
Symantec

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!

That's what I like about Symantec's gateway . . . gets inside the zip
.
. .
of course it is a pain when you *need* to send an EXE but oh well . .
.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:18 PM
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> Wasn't blocking ZIP attachments. Trend now has a pattern available
as
well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chris H
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: NETSKY.C out..Heads up!
>
> It is using the attachments types we all usually block anyway no?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > I just started receiving messages that are being blocked based on
> attachment
> > type. I believe it NETSKY.C which we don't have a pattern file
for
it
on
> > TREND yet so watch out!
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