Are either of you members of the Bar? And not the alcoholic one either. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Putley Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways I agree totally but until they show their case its anyones call. I saw on the news that a leaked memo showed Microsoft had given SCO $86M to pay for the lawyers. Anyway... Sorry I'm off topic -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways They only have to show the courts - not the public - the issues. Frankly, I'd guess they are doing that simply because it keeps someone from rewriting that code, which would weaken their case. But, as I said, the bigger question, and the reason I'm tracking the case, is what legal definition of copyright infringement is defined by this ruling. Part of my background is in custom publishing for colleges, and we dealt very heavily with copyright issues - most of our products were collections of article reprints. Those were much more cut and dried than this particular issue is, however. Roger -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mick Putley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:54 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > Thus far SCO have refused to show anyone what lines of code are at > issue so I don't understand how you can make that judgement > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Roger Seielstad > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:50 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > Not to take this too far off topic, but the reality is SCO can show > the chain of ownership for the intellectual property behind Unix. It's > a valid suit, assuming that there are line by line similarities in the > source code. > > The bigger issue with it is what constitutes copyright infringement in > software development. That's the sticky question to answer. What > percentage would have to be substantially the same (and what does > *that* actually mean) for it to be stolen code? > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:54 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > > > > To me it's like I'm coming out an claiming I own some of > the code to > > windows. You can pay me now before my claim is proven and > if it ends > > up that I'm wrong, then I promise I'll give your money back to you > > (if there's any money left after I become bankrupt) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Martin Blackstone > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:48 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > > Apparently some folks think different. > > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5170310.html?tag=nefd_top > > > > That said, I have no opinion regarding it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Christopher Hummert > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:46 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > > Why would you want to throw your money away on an invalid claim? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Martin Blackstone > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:42 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > > Did you send your money to SCO yet? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul > > > Hutchings > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:37 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > > I'd certainly take a look at open source options. > > > > We're a small company and I've got a Suse Linux box in our DMZ with > > Postfix and Spamassassin and every time i look at it (so to speak) > > it bloody amazes me what it does for what it cost. > > > > regards, > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Juancho Ciocon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 4:22 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Messaging Gateways > > > > > > Hi, folks: > > > > We are a global company, running "native" E2k on W2k servers, WinXP > > and Outlook 2002 on user machines. > > > > We are looking at replacing our current email gateway (which does > > header rewrites, routing based on MX records, virus and attachment > scanning, > > etc.) and I'm looking for some recommendations from this forum. > > Preferably, we'd like the same type of functionality but > with a slight > > topology change: we'd like the new device/system in our DMZ. > > > > I look forward to your suggestions, comments or questions. > > > > Thank you in advance! > > -Juancho > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > > ext_mode=&lang > > =english > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > > Corp. > > Attn: Discussion List Management > > 475 Park Avenue South > > New York, NY 10016 > > > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > > ext_mode=&lang > > =english > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > > Corp. > > Attn: Discussion List Management > > 475 Park Avenue South > > New York, NY 10016 > > > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > > ext_mode=&lang > > =english > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > > Corp. > > Attn: Discussion List Management > > 475 Park Avenue South > > New York, NY 10016 > > > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=& lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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