The RAID type you use for a single set of logs is unimportant because the
log volume is almost entirely a sequential write, so there is very little
seek time.  A RAID-1 pair for a single set of logs should be sufficient for
any number of Exchange users.  Again, separating SAN drives into physical
groups just to support Exchange is overly costly.  If you configure the SAN
as it should be configured, i.e., a "sea of drives", then you will want to
work with your SAN engineer to ensure that the the SAN will be able to
sustain the necessary data rates of your particular Exchange infrastructure.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2k3 & SANs

Let's say you have 200GB of database and 75GB of daily logs.  You will get
better performance if you stripe both "disks" across five RAID groups than
if you put the db on one and the logs on another.  

We have an HP XP-512, a storage frame comparable to (and IMHO better than)
whatever model of Symmetrix was being sold in the last months of 2001.  Our
initial disk layout for Exchange 2000 was very badly designed (gotta love
VARs), with the db and logs sharing a single RAID group.  I recently took it
upon myself to mitigate the design problem by moving the logs to another
part of the frame but I did not detect any improvement in performance.  

Of course, it could be that we're just not hitting the server hard enough
for disk I/O to be a problem.  In certain limited situations, yes it's
better to separate the db LUNs from the log LUNs, but to optimize
performance you need to consider what else is on these spindles, disk
controllers, ports and port controllers (in XP terms, the parity groups,
ACPs, ports and CHIPs), not to mention cache.  For example, if you have an
I/O-intensive Oracle app on the same ports as Exchange, you may find that
the port becomes a bottleneck regardless of where the Oracle data is stored.
These are the kinds of things your SAN administrators will consider when
allocating disk space.  Unless you have reason to doubt them, trust the SAN
admins to know what they're doing.


-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2k3 & SANs


Does anyone on the list have Exchange 2k3/2k running on an EMC SAN or other
comparable SAN product. We are getting a lot of push back from the SAN group
because we want to design our disk layout for optimum I/O performance and
have dedicated spindles for Exchange, and they don't feel it is necessary.
Do any of you have any real world experience with the pains of not designing
your SAN I/O properly and not following Vendor/MS best practices with disk
configuration? Thanks for the input, we are planning on engaging EMC and
performing some tests like these in there labs, but would like to get some
real world experiences from all of you.

Anthony Sollars
Sr. Technology Consultant
PACCAR Inc


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