Who cares what everyone else does?  What YOU should do is size your stores
to meet your SLAs, while applying business judgment to your SLAs to ensure
that they make business sense.

I would never recommend using ISINTEG or ESEUTIL in the way you describe as
a part of a disaster recovery procedure.  Instead, I would implement a
dial-tone procedure and use those tools to recover any e-mail that might not
be recovered by other means after you've used the best-effort recovery.

If you're experiencing corruption, then you might want to reevaluate your
choice of hardware vendor.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year! 
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Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and database size/rebuild questions.

We use Tivoli for restoration so the time to restore is minimal.  But if a
database gets corrupt and the size is substantial the time to run the
check/repair can be a day or more where as a restore can be done within an
hour.  If it were not for the time it takes to run ISINTEG for a corrupt
database, then I would feel comfortable expanding the DB's to 100 or 200 gig
a piece.  

Do other system admins allow for larger DB's 100 or 200 gig and just take
the chance that there will never be a corruption or use backups in the
advent that it does get nailed by a hardware failure or whatever.  


Pete Pfefferkorn
University of Cincinnati Information Technology Services Senior Systems
Analyst/Mail Administrator
Phone: (513) 556-9076
Fax: (513) 556-2042
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-----Original Message-----
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Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and database size/rebuild questions.

The recommendation to keep database sizes "small" has nothing to do with
larger databases being susceptible to failure, but to allow administrators
to be able to comply with their time-to-restore SLAs.
Having more smaller databases means that the time to restore one if it fails
is shorter.  Larger databases are no more likely to fail, especially since
database failure is nearly always related to hardware failures.  This really
doesn't change in Exchange 2007.  In fact, since you can now have 50
databases (up from 20) on an Exchange 2007 server, you can go even smaller
if you want.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year! 
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Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2007 and database size/rebuild questions.

I have a question about Exchange 2007 that maybe someone can answer for
me.  We are starting to look into Exchange 2007.    We currently have
our faculty/staff deployed on Exchange which accounts for about 8,000
mailboxes on 4 backend servers with about 9 stores total size of 433 gig
with each store no larger than 50 gig or so.  Users have a total of 100 meg
per mailbox.  Our students are located on a proprietary mail system which
can accommodate the 75,000 users with 50 meg stores.  One of the reasons we
did not deploy students on Exchange, was the scalability issue and the
number of servers and stores that would have to be deployed to accommodate
the number of users we are talking about.  The other issue was restriction
on the size of the DB's in the advent a corruption occurs and the time to
run a repair on a database.

In 2007 is there still the underlying recommendation to keep DB sizes to a
smaller size in case a corruption occurs?  Anyone know if the ISINTEG has
been revamped at all to get better throughput?  Currently we try and keep
the size of a DB to about 50 gig.  I recall that the ISINTEG is jet oriented
and could only process about 4gig to 6 gig per hour.  



Pete Pfefferkorn
University of Cincinnati Information Technology Services Senior Systems
Analyst/Mail Administrator
Phone: (513) 556-9076
Fax: (513) 556-2042
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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