Very informative, thank you. Did you ever find a way to change From to Sender in the GUI, or is handcrafting the only way?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki Peterson - OETX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: Internal Junk Email


We had a similar problem after we updated Exchange a while back. We
found that the problem messages were:

- Internal recipients only (email delivered to outside source)
- The emails were automated using cdo
- The specific line causing problems were using the "From" Field
instead of the "Sender" field in their code
- Changed "objMessage.Sender = Request.Form("From")".

The difference between From and Sender is that Sender identifies the
user that actually submits the message, but From on the other hand,
designates the author(s). Info Found at the link listed below:
http://www.ilopia.com/Articles/WindowsServer2003/CDO.aspx

As an example: Look at the SEND AS function - an administrative
assistant can send mail as the boss, however the actual sender is the
admin asst. This shows that there are clearly two separate entities
defined in two different ways.

We also found that the automated messages were being sent from a "make
believe" entity using a non-authorized or authenticatable address like
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" This was bad because our system did not
have a clue who "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" was.

Nikki

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
McCready, Robert
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internal Junk Email

Looks like you are correct.  The emails are generated from an oracle ERP
application and forwarded to Exchange using an Oracle ERP mailbox.  I
just thought that maybe since the mailbox was internal, that it would be
trusted.  But maybe because the originating email is actually be
forwarded from another server, I need to do something else to prevent it
from going into the Junk Email folder???

Rob McCready
Dayton Power & Light
Enterprise Messaging Administrator
331-4570
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Knoch Jr., James W
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internal Junk Email

Are you sure Outlook/Exchange is being used to send out these e-mails or
are they using a third party product or service that sends as that
mailbox's address?  Exchange would consider that external e-mail and
should not automatically trust it (because of possible forged from
addresses, etc).

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
McCready, Robert
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Internal Junk Email

I find this problem all over the Internet, but with no resolution.
Curses!

We have an internal mailbox that sends out company email.  Although all
the users junk email settings are the same, some of them receive the
email in their Inbox and some of the receive it in their junk email
folder.  I did have a user take one of the emails and "add to safe
senders list", which did correct his problem.

However, I really don't want to tell over 1,000 people to add an
INTERNAL company email address to their safe senders list.  Everything I
keep reading says......"all internal email is automatically
trusted"......ummm, it's not.  I've found many incidents on the Internet
with people having the exact same problem, but they can't get an answer
either.

Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2003.

Thanks.

Rob

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