For once! (hehe). But it's only this once....
Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
theyd eletethem?
Fair! case closed...We agree to agree
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:33 AM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
>>>theyd eletethem?
>>>
>>>
>>>My bad. I read the original post as to mean that w/o the
>>>hack on the machine
>>>that did the shift-delete those messages couldn't be deleted. Upon
>>>re-reading the post that's not what was said, sorry. I think
>>>we can all
>>>agree on the following:
>>>
>>>At an end-user machine the hack doesn't need to be
>>>installed. The end user
>>>can delete things and recover from deleted items. If they
>>>delete them from
>>>deleted items they can Recover Deleted Items. If however
>>>they shift-delete
>>>them from inbox (or another folder) _they_ cannot Recover
>>>Deleted Items
>>>them.
>>>
>>>At an admin machine the hack should be installed. This would
>>>allow the admin
>>>to open the end-users mailbox (provided they had rights) and
>>>Recover Deleted
>>>Items the mail messages from _any_ folder regardless of a delete or
>>>shift-delete.
>>>
>>>Both of the preceding assume that Deleted Item Retention
>>>Time hasn't passed
>>>since the delete.
>>>
>>>Fair?
>>>
>>>-Walden
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:19 AM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
>>>theyd eletethem?
>>>
>>>
>>>You know, after reading more closely, it looks like that,
>>>yes. It was a
>>>little confusing since he disagreed with the previous post, which was
>>>correct.
>>>
>>>Ben Winzenz, MCSE
>>>Network/Systems Administrator
>>>Peregrine Systems, Inc.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:23 AM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange
>>>folders after
>>>theyd eletethem?
>>>
>>>I think you two are saying the same thing.
>>>
>>>Mike Morrison
>>>NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
>>>Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:16 AM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
>>>theyd eletethem?
>>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. Go ahead and do it
>>>to make sure,
>>>but I as well as others will confirm that you can delete
>>>things directly
>>>from your Inbox, or other folders for that matter, without
>>>it touching the
>>>Deleted Items folder, thus it cannot be recovered from the
>>>Deleted Items,
>>>rather can only be recovered from the folder it was deleted
>>>from. That
>>>means you need the reg hack.
>>>
>>>Ben Winzenz, MCSE
>>>Network/Systems Administrator
>>>Peregrine Systems, Inc.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:05 AM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange
>>>folders after
>>>theyd eletethem?
>>>
>>>Um, I'll have to try this, but I don't think that is
>>>correct. I believe
>>>messages are _always_ retained in the IS for the retention
>>>period (I don't
>>>care how you delete them). The DumsterAlwaysOn entry allows
>>>you to see the
>>>Recover Deleted Items tool in folders other that Deleted
>>>Items. That's why
>>>you only need the hack on any machines except the one you
>>>recover from.
>>>
>>>-Walden
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:33 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
>>>theydeletethem?
>>>
>>>
>>>Correct.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:32 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
>>>theydeletethem?
>>>
>>>so if i am in my inbox folder, and hold down the shift key
>>>the item in
>>>the
>>>inbox never touches the deleted items folder, it is deleted
>>>right from
>>>the
>>>inbox folder, so to recover this you would have to turn
>>>dumpster always
>>>on
>>>registry edit ??
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>>Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
>>>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:17 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Is their away to recover a users exchange folders after
>>>theydeletethem?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>But if I want to recover other folders I have to go
>>>>>>to each clients
>>>>>>workstation and do the Dumpsteralways on reg config ??
>>> No just the workstation you plan to use to recover things.
>>>
>>>>>>But I thought anytime
>>>>>>you delete an item it goes to the deleted item folder
>>>>>>anyhow??
>>>Not always...delete this message while holding the shiftkey.
>>> Delivering
>>>items to a PST would also be an instance were the message left the IS
>>>without being placed in the deleted items folder.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>So in which scenario would it be useful to edit this registry
>>>setting???
>>>If you plan on recovering things that never resided in the
>>>deleted items
>>>folder.
>>>
>>>
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