So, the only head which really needs to on a pike is that of one Mr.
McDonald?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
> 
> 
> ha.. actually I just learned  he 'was' asked that question..
> 
> Turns out, ol' McDonald was away from his desk from 9 till 
> 10am and left his box accessible. All indications are that 
> the message was sent from the client on his desk. The message 
> was found in the Sent Items of his mailbox. There appears to 
> have been no logon recorded in Admin during that hour 
> (implying his mailbox was not opened from another PC), and 
> there were no suspicious 1016's (implying the Admin was not 
> in on it). The message was of blue Arial font (implying OWA 
> was not used to send it, and his password is secure), and 
> there was no access recorded by the box acting as the SMTP 
> server (implying O.E. was not used to send it, and his creds 
> are secure). Oh.. and someone saw somebody at his desk around 
> the time (implying.. oh
> hell..)
> 
> so they figured it out.
> this was not quite the challenge I thought it'd be.
> 
> Tim.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
> 
> 
> Ask McDonald, "Where exactly were you at 9:19AM this morning, 
> and for how long before that, and who knew?"
> 
> i.e. was he in the washroom with his $250 Italian leathers 
> poking out underneath the stall, making noises that indicated 
> extreme abdominal discomfort...  :)
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:13 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Investigating a Forged Message
> > Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > I believe item #1 (of my post) is most probable.. hell, I
> > must leave OL2k
> > open and unattended on my PC a dozen times every day for 
> minutes at a
> > stretch.
> > 
> > However, this takes balls. Considering the length and
> > articulate phrasing of
> > the message, it seems the person would have spent an 
> > inordinate amount of
> > time at McDonald's desk. Certainly someone should have seen 
> > somebody there.
> > 
> > I have recommended they check the EV on the server which
> > McDonald's mailbox
> > resides for EV 1016's.. just incase the Admin was in on it.
> > 
> > Tim.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wright, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:47 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
> > 
> > 
> > It appears that it was send via Exchange since there are no 
> internet 
> > addresses in the TO: FROM: fields.  Also, if you check the 
> headers and 
> > there is nothing there, then you have the culprit in-house 
> and logging 
> > on legitimately via the user's account.  The original
> > suggestions below are
> > probably what occurred.
> > 
> > How accessible is the VP's computer?  May be someone took a quick 
> > opportunity at an unattended computer.  If they were very 
> clever, they 
> > might have set the message to delay a day or so before delivery.
> > 
> > Hope everyone at the company took it seriously and went home ;-)
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
> > 
> > 
> > Headers, Let us see the headers.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:33 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Investigating a Forged Message
> > 
> > 
> > Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine 
> Friday.. put 
> > on your investigator hats..
> > 
> > My wife forwarded this message to me:
> > 
> > > From:     McDonald, Arthur K.  
> > > Sent:     Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
> > > To:       EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
> > > Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
> > > 
> > > All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and
> > for that
> > > reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon
> > > today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more 
> > than I will
> > > ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your 
> neighbors,
> > > love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
> > > ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to 
> take on the 
> > > world!
> > 
> > ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, "Arthur", VP (Very
> > Pissed), wants
> > a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
> > likely prospects:
> > 
> > 1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
> > 2) The culprit knew Arthur's username & password;
> > 3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted "User" or "Send as" 
> permission 
> > to culprit
> > 4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar 
> > serve from the web.
> > 
> > Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a 
> few details 
> > that have be provide me. Care to contribute?
> > 
> > Tim.
> > 
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