Cool deal...

As far as the law thing...  You misread that.  I didn't bring up who owned
the email, I brought up the Privacy issue.  You are indeed violating a users
Civil Rights by snooping in their mailbox without approval from said user.
Let's not get on this topic though...

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimer


Thanks.  I got just the answers that I thought I would.  And BTW, it has
been determined in a court of law that email does NOT belong to the User,
because the User is using Company software, hardware and time.

Geoff


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimer


Uhh... Dale, if you have a company policy, you also have a lovely piece of
paper that your employees sign stating they read and understand the policy.
It is up to HR to enforce that policy.

Even if email does belong to the user, it has been determined in a court of
law that if you are snooping in a users mailbox, that you ARE violating
their privacy.  

Policies are great and there a pita to enforce sometimes, but as has been
said time and time again...

"There are seldom technological solutions for behavioral problems"

Your question is not really "that" valid.  Sure, it might be worth
investigating, but if your users are "that" much of a problem...  Go find
new ones.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimer


I seriously doubt that we DO have to remind ALL our Users everyday and with
every email that the may be violating the email policy of the company.
However, there are SOME people that actually do need to be reminded every
day and with EVERY email they send that they may be in violation of the
email policy of the company.  Otherwise, I would not have asked the
question.  Just because you post a message on a piece of paper and in a
book, which 3/4 of the employees probably never have read, page-to-page, or
post a message on some lame bulletin stuck up in the kitchen, doesn't mean
the policy will be enforced.  And just because this disclaimer may be posted
in an email doesn't even mean that the policy will be followed.  However,
company email belongs to the company, not the enduser, and if a company is
having problems with a large number of Users violating the policy in place,
then why not add a disclaimer to the email.  Some companies have to do it
with external email.  Otherwise imsext.dll would not have been written, nor
would the various articles that Microsoft publish in their Knowledge Base be
there.  My question was a valid one.  Requiring a simple answer.[1]

Thanks to everyone for their input.

Geoff

[1] your answer at the end of your email.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimer


Do you remind people each and every day that it is a violation of company
policy to use corporate office supplies for personal use? I serious doubt
that you do. So why would you remind them every stinking time that they send
an eMail of your corporate policy on eMail use? 

Post the policy where you post all your other corporate policies (Web page,
employee handbook, etc) and have them acknowledge that they received a copy.
Just like for every other policy in the company. 

Why is it the senior management across this country (nay, across the world)
feels that they have to remind eMail users on a daily basis about corporate
policy? They don't prefix every telephone call with a recording reminding
them of the appropriate use of the phone? The next time a manager comes to
you [1] asking for internal disclaimers, ask them if they are also
implementing the phone recording message? It might just make them realize
how silly their request is.

[1] "you being the entire Exchange List not just Mr. Edwards [2] [2] Oh, the
technical answer is you have to use third party software.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimer


Okay.  I have search Microsoft's Knowledge Base.  I have search the FAQ and
read FAQ 4.1.  However, they talks about adding a disclaimer to external
emails.  How would we add a disclaimer to our internal messages being sent
inside the Company?  We basically want to add to every message a statement
saying that email is property of the Company and any violation or misuse of
the Company's email system will result in flogging and being sent to their
room without the use of the facilities for 24 hours!  No, but seriously, can
this be done just with the Exchange program?  Or do we have to use a
third-party software to be able to do this internally.

TIA

Geoff

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