Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server

200 logs in one day?  Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like
you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
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Stephen


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Williams
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files

I found this.....so I will go with it....

  
PSS ID Number: Q240145
Article last modified on 10-10-1999
 
winnt:5.5
 

 

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The information in this article applies to:
 
 - Microsoft Exchange Server, version 5.5 
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SUMMARY
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Exchange Server database transaction logs record all changes to an
Exchange
Server database. Over time, these logs accumulate and use all disk space
if
they
are not permanently deleted. Exchange Server automatically deletes
unnecessary
log files by either of the following methods:
 
 - If circular logging is enabled, the system deletes transaction logs
soon
  after they have been written to the database file. Circular logging is
the
  Exchange Server installation default.
 
 - If circular logging is disabled, the system deletes excess logs after
a
full
  or incremental backup.
 
You may occasionally need to remove transaction log files manually if
you
have
run out of disk space or anticipate such an event before a backup can be
made.
Removing logs yourself can be dangerous to the database. If you remove a
log
that contains data that has not yet been written to the database file,
you
will
almost always damage the database and make it unstartable.
 
NOTE: "Removing" a transaction log file means moving it to another
location
where
it can be backed up, stored, or deleted, depending on your needs.
"Deleting"
is
a kind of removal that does not permit you to back up or restore the log
file.
 
This article explains how to tell which log files can be safely removed
without
risk to the current database file.
 
MORE INFORMATION
================
 
After Exchange Server has written all information from a particular
transaction
log to the database file, that log file will be accessed again only if a
previous backup of the database is restored. The log is now in the
"past" of
the
database. But if a backup is restored, the log is in the "future" of the
restored database. Its information can be applied to the database to
bring
it up
to date.
 
IMPORTANT: When you remove excess transaction logs, you should move them
rather
than delete them in order to preserve this "roll forward" capability.
 
The following steps apply to both the information store and to the
directory
service.
 
To determine which log files can be safely removed:
 
1. In the Exchange Server Administrator program, view the working path
for
the
  database.
 
   Path locations are found on the <Server> object's Database Paths
  properties page. The checkpoint file (Edb.chk) is located in this
path. If
  the Administrator program is unavailable, you can view the working
path in
  the system registry. Run Regedit.exe and expand the following registry
key.
 
For the information store:
 
 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeIS\Parame
ters
System\Working
  Directory
 
For the directory:
 
 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeDS\Parame
ters
\DSA
  Working Directory
 
2. At a command prompt, change directory to the working path folder.
View
the
  header of the Edb.chk file with Eseutil (Exchange Server 5.5):
 
   "eseutil /mk edb.chk" (without the quotation marks)
 
   or Edbutil (Exchange Server 4.0 and 5.0):
 
   "edbutil /mk edb.chk" (without the quotation marks)
 
   Note that the screen output is similar to the following:
 
   Microsoft(r) Windows NT(tm) Server Database Utilities
  Version 5.5
  Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1991-1998. All Rights Reserved.
 
   Initiating FILE DUMP mode...
  Checkpoint file: edb.chk
 
   LastFullBackupCheckpoint (0,0,0)
  Checkpoint (157,2860,500)    comment: Checkpoint is in log 157 decimal
  FullBackup (90,8,10)
  FullBackup time:1/15/1999 18:18:36
  IncBackup (0,0,0)
  IncBackup time:0/0/1900 0:0:0
  . . .
 
   The three numbers on the Checkpoint line represent the log file
generation
  number, a sector offset into the log file, and a byte offset into the
sector.
  Write down the generation number.
 
3. Convert the generation number into hexadecimal. In this example,
decimal
157
  translates to hexadecimal 9D. Exchange Server log files are numbered
with
  five hexadecimal digits (for example Edb12345.log). Leading zeroes are
used
  to pad the log number out to five digits. Thus, the checkpoint log
file
from
  the preceding example is Edb0009d.log.
 
   NOTE: You can use the Scientific mode of the Windows Calculator to
convert
  from decimal to hexadecimal. Start the Calculator, and on the View
menu,
  click Scientific. Enter the decimal number, and click Hex.
 
4. The checkpoint log itself may not be found in the Transaction Logs
folder,
  but you will always find a log file one number lower than the
checkpoint.
For
  example, the Edb0009d.log file may not exist, but the Edb0009c.log
file
does.
  The reason for this is that the checkpoint may be in the Edb.log file.
When
  the Edb.log file is full, it is renamed Edb0009d.log, and a new
Edb.log
file
  is created, which will itself eventually be renamed Edb0009e.log, and
so
on.
 
5. You can safely remove all numbered logs below the checkpoint, but not
the
  checkpoint log itself. In this example, you can remove Edb0009c.log,
  Edb0009b.log, and so on, but not Edb0009d.log. If you do not intend to
remove
  all logs older than the checkpoint, it is best to remove them in
  chronological order, starting with the oldest.
 
   Remember to move, not delete, the log files.
 
You do not have to stop the database service to remove log files older
than
the
checkpoint.
 
If you must restore a backup, you must also restore all log files
created
since
the last backup. If there is a gap in the sequence of logs, you cannot
roll
forward past the gap.
 
Additional query words:
 
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Copyright Microsoft Corporation 1999.


 

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files


Thanks, will look at it....

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files


Sounds to me like he needs to run to the disaster recovery white paper.
And
read it.. Before that happens he needs to step away from the server.

Those are not log files like what your server did. They are transaction
logs. As in a copy of every message that has come in and out of your
server,
that in the case of a Priv loss can be re applied to a backup to make
your
Priv current.

Go, read, NOW! Then you can ask more questions.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM
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Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files



You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that.  Or,
you
could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well.  Are you
running out of space?  Is that why you need to delete them?
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Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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I backup my server with Veritas Backup Exec....all of these files were
generated in 1 day.....Can I delete these without any problems?

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files



Are you backing up your server?  Those logs are what is being written.
If
you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't
see
quite so many -there is an option to "flush committed logs" when backing
up.
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Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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I have about 200 edbxxxx.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get
cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them?

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com

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