It wasn't any worst than AMC's Gremlin, a 25 Gal fuel tank as the rear bumper.
John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral; begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because.... Yeah, but is a 28MPH impact "hard enough"? Ford's & Lee Iacocca's $2000 limit for the Pinto caused at least 500 people to burn to death needlessly. See http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/SO77/dowie.html for more information. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because.... Everyone I've known who owned a Ford Pinto liked their car. Remember, the Pinto was a two-thousand-dollar car. Every car, even a Mercedes, will blow up if you plow into it hard enough. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Scott Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because.... On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Chris Scharff wrote: >> Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* >> mistakes? I paid good money for their software; it is >> unreasonable to expect it to be secure in the default configuration? > > You're just being a troll like Shawn now right? If you're not going to > add anything useful to the conversation, why even have it? Alright, I will concede that was a bit heated, but that attitude really irks me. Some customers demand insecure features. Granted. Historically, Microsoft has implemented those insecure features by default, leading to security problems for everyone. Other customers have demanded products designed with security in mind. Microsoft blames the problem on customers not installing fixes. Am I the only one who sees the inconsistency with this? Why does Microsoft only listen to the demands of customers who want insecurity? Why don't the demands of people who want more secure products count? My issue is not with installing updates or correcting insecure defaults. I am perfectly capable of doing so, thank you very much. My issue is that the problem does not appear to be caused simple programming errors, but through a continued disregard for security on the part of Microsoft. That makes my job harder than it needs to be, and that is not something I like. To use an analogy, when I buy a car, I do not expect to have to remove a bolt mounted behind the gas tank to prevent the vehicle from exploding when involved in a rear-end impact. Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft appears to be waking up to the fact that producing the software equivalent of a Ford Pinto is not a practice that instills customer loyalty. -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
