You are leaving out the write time to the hard drive.  Depending on RAID,
drive speed, etc., etc., I doubt you would get your theoretical rate.

-----Original Message-----
From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster debriefing


Well it was a 10G file, which is about 81920 megabits.  Let's say you're
getting 60MBps transfer rate on your 100Mbps LAN (since it's nighttime,
things are pretty quiet), that should take about 25 minutes.  Lemme know if
my math is wrong.

-Yanek.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:35 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> 
> 
> Which means nothing. Try it out yourself - cut and paste, 
> drag and drop,
> xcopy, whatever - a large file, and while its copying, look 
> at the byte
> count on the destination drive. That's the FIRST thing done 
> in the copy
> process.
> 
> You ever time doing a copy of a 20GB file across a LAN??? It 
> takes a while.
> A LONG while.
> 
> There is no need for retraining this person - even my 3 year 
> old can say
> "Would you like fries with that?"
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.peregrine.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > 
> > 
> > He did wait an hour...  And he's confident the copy was 
> > complete - same byte
> > count on both the network drive and the local drive.
> > 
> > -Yanek.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sounds like he got impatient and didn't wait for the database 
> > > to finish
> > > being copied back to exchsrvr\mdbdata from the network share 
> > > - which needs
> > > to complete before you get your dos prompt back.
> > > 
> > > After he killed ESEutil, he could've also copied it back 
> > manually and
> > > renamed back to priv.edb instead of tape restore.  Then, the 
> > > defrag effort
> > > would not have been in vain.
> > > 
> > > Louise
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > 
> > > He followed the KB article, whatever it was.  Services were 
> > > down.  I think
> > > he followed all the "right" procedures.  The temp file was on 
> > > a network
> > > drive that had plenty of room.  The defragged temp database 
> > > exists on the
> > > temp drive and is whole.  That's how he figures it freed 3.5 gigs.
> > > 
> > > -Yanek.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The utility is dangerous in the wrong hands.  It can take a 
> > > > very, very, very
> > > > long time to run.  It also gets very snitty when you don't 
> > > > have enough room
> > > > on the HD (or network share) to create the temp file that is 
> > > > part of the
> > > > defrag process....Where did he attempt to create the temp 
> > > > file....on the
> > > > same drive that is almost full?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And how is he enjoying his time at home these days?
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:16 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: disaster debriefing
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, so we had a disaster the other day.  Co-Worker of mine 
> > > ran eseutil
> > > > against the private IS to free up some disk space.  We were 
> > > > at about 95%
> > > > capacity on the drive, and it would creep up to about 98% 
> > > > before the nightly
> > > > incrementals, which brought it back down.  Now, I'm not 
> > > positive what
> > > > command he ran, but apparently it cleared about 3.5 gigs out 
> > > > of the IS.
> > > > Right before eseutil exited, however, it apparently "hung" 
> > > > waiting for a
> > > > command prompt.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm a little fuzzy as to what happened after this.  I think 
> > > > he tried to
> > > > reboot, and then the IS didn't come up -- he got some errors, 
> > > > looked them up
> > > > in the KB to very little avail.  So when I got in at 9 the 
> > > > next morning,
> > > > mail was down.  He was still there.
> > > > 
> > > > We managed to put humpty dumpty back together again restoring 
> > > > from the full
> > > > backup we made right before starting this procedure.  It 
> > > took several
> > > > attempts - he had tried restoring from backup before but 
> > > > hadn't had any
> > > > success.  I think the procedure we followed was this:
> > > > Shut down all exchange services
> > > > Start System Attendant & directory service
> > > > Restore DS
> > > > Stop System Attendant & directory service
> > > > Restart System Attendant
> > > > Restore IS
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Any other combination of services running/not running 
> > > didn't work out.
> > > > We're using Veritas Backup Exec BTW.  Well everything's back 
> > > > to the way it
> > > > was before we started this whole mess.  I know I've seen 
> > > > discussions about
> > > > eseutil on this list before, but I wanted to revisit this 
> > > and get some
> > > > concrete information.
> > > > 
> > > > What did we do wrong?  What's the right way to use eseutil to 
> > > > gain disk
> > > > space?  I'd appreciate any non-flaming advice, pointers, 
> > > > docs, etc.  I find
> > > > the archives non-intuitive -- or maybe I'm looking in the 
> > > wrong place?
> > > > Can't seem to find a good place to type in a search phrase 
> > > > "eseutil" and
> > > > have it return relevant data (I'm here: http://www.swynk.com)
> > > > 
> > > > -Yanek.
> > > > 
> > > > 
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