What about dethonged?
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I just pray that I am never de-briefed before a disaster...


Andy



> I want to know how much White Space was there before the defrag.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
>
>
> You're assuming that the Eseutil didn't chew up some of the database.
>
> -- Drew
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
>
>
> Alas, I don't know.  Seeing as 3.5 G were cleared, can I assume there
> were 3.5 gigs of whitespace?  Adding a drive isn't so easy as the
> system's already full up on drives.
>
> -Yanek.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:16 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> >
> >
> > How much white space was there before the defrag?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yanek Korff
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> >
> >
> > He did wait an hour...  And he's confident the copy was
> > complete - same
> > byte count on both the network drive and the local drive.
> >
> > -Yanek.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like he got impatient and didn't wait for the database to
> > > finish being copied back to exchsrvr\mdbdata from the network share
> > > - which needs
> > > to complete before you get your dos prompt back.
> > >
> > > After he killed ESEutil, he could've also copied it back
> > manually and
> > > renamed back to priv.edb instead of tape restore.  Then, the defrag
> > > effort would not have been in vain.
> > >
> > > Louise
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > >
> > > He followed the KB article, whatever it was.  Services were down.  I
>
> > > think he followed all the "right" procedures.  The temp file was on
> > > a network
> > > drive that had plenty of room.  The defragged temp database
> > > exists on the
> > > temp drive and is whole.  That's how he figures it freed 3.5 gigs.
> > >
> > > -Yanek.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The utility is dangerous in the wrong hands.  It can take a very,
> > > > very, very long time to run.  It also gets very snitty when you
> > > > don't have enough room
> > > > on the HD (or network share) to create the temp file that is
> > > > part of the
> > > > defrag process....Where did he attempt to create the temp
> > > > file....on the
> > > > same drive that is almost full?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And how is he enjoying his time at home these days?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:16 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: disaster debriefing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok, so we had a disaster the other day.  Co-Worker of mine
> > > ran eseutil
> > > > against the private IS to free up some disk space.  We were at
> > > > about 95% capacity on the drive, and it would creep up to about
> > > > 98% before the nightly
> > > > incrementals, which brought it back down.  Now, I'm not
> > > positive what
> > > > command he ran, but apparently it cleared about 3.5 gigs out of
> > > > the IS. Right before eseutil exited, however, it apparently "hung"
> > > > waiting for a
> > > > command prompt.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a little fuzzy as to what happened after this.  I think he
> > > > tried to reboot, and then the IS didn't come up -- he got some
> > > > errors, looked them up
> > > > in the KB to very little avail.  So when I got in at 9 the
> > > > next morning,
> > > > mail was down.  He was still there.
> > > >
> > > > We managed to put humpty dumpty back together again restoring from
>
> > > > the full backup we made right before starting this procedure.  It
> > > took several
> > > > attempts - he had tried restoring from backup before but hadn't
> > > > had any success.  I think the procedure we followed was this:
> > > > Shut down all exchange services
> > > > Start System Attendant & directory service
> > > > Restore DS
> > > > Stop System Attendant & directory service
> > > > Restart System Attendant
> > > > Restore IS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any other combination of services running/not running
> > > didn't work out.
> > > > We're using Veritas Backup Exec BTW.  Well everything's back to
> > > > the way it was before we started this whole mess.  I know I've
> > > > seen discussions about
> > > > eseutil on this list before, but I wanted to revisit this
> > > and get some
> > > > concrete information.
> > > >
> > > > What did we do wrong?  What's the right way to use eseutil to gain
>
> > > > disk space?  I'd appreciate any non-flaming advice, pointers,
> > > > docs, etc.  I find
> > > > the archives non-intuitive -- or maybe I'm looking in the
> > > wrong place?
> > > > Can't seem to find a good place to type in a search phrase
> > > > "eseutil" and have it return relevant data (I'm here:
> > > > http://www.swynk.com)
> > > >
> > > > -Yanek.
> > > >
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