Yes Exchange is critical and it the money is given accordingly. To spec a machine for 10(!) years would probably require us to either reduce services elsewhere or lose a member of staff as there is a finite budget. If I need something and can justify it with sensible business sense, I normally will get it.
A server to last 10 years can simply not be justified. ---------------------------------------------------- Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 15:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization I guess it depends on your situation. If policy dictates that Exchange Server is classified as a critical system I would think you would want to spec the system appropriately. Secondly, getting what you want from upper management is a skill and requires good salesmanship and good political tactics. I would think you guys and gals would consider this an asset. If I can get a nice, big, powerful server...I'm going to do it. -----Original Message----- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization Don - lack of experience - ouch! The real world has to adapt. I could spend far too much money on a server that should last 5-8 years. But then I would rather spend money on a server that suits the company needs now and for the next 3-4 years and replace it with one after that time. And if I ask for silly money now, I am not going to get it for anything else that may need it (you never know what's around the corner). Its experience that is showing all of us that we don't need a server with a spec that high. If a change occurs that should suddenly change your user base or policies, then use it for some more money to upgrade/replace your server. ---------------------------------------------------- Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems & Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization So because you cannot afford to spec a server appropriately you decide it's best to flame everyone else that can. If your read the original post correctly you would have seen that I was making a recommendation. The recommendation allows for future growth of the database and the least amount of hardware problems. The fact that you consider the hardware to be overkill shows you lack of experience. I recommended a system that should last 5-8 years. What good does it do to spec a system that barely meets your current needs? In addition, you are chastising me for convincing higher ups to purchase a system that is in your opinion an overkill....Wouldn't this be considered an asset? Maybe you should evaluate your own tactics with upper management. -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization Someone would have to be on some good drugs to over-spec a server like that. I guess we're the unfortunate bunch with actual "real" world budgets to work with... ;o) D -----Original Message----- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 6:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization Ha ha ha ha LOL. Crack pipe. Nice one Don. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 14:36 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization What crack pipe are you smoking out of? Those specs are way beyond what's necessary! D -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization 400 Mailboxes and 1 gig of Ram does not sound right. Your primary problem is hardware. This is my minimum recommendation for your hardware requirements. Dual Pentium III 550 + Separate Raid Controller running in Raid 5 config. (2 partitions logical) 2 Gig physical memory. 3 Gig Page File on second partition Run optimizer and move the databases and log files to 2nd partition. -----Original Message----- From: Frazer J Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: High Physical Memory Utilization One of my colleagues recently reinstalled a 5.5 SP4 Exchange Server on NT4 SP5 (only Exchange was reinstalled) and have noticed that the Physical Memory Utilization sits at around 99% (prior to the rebuild it was around 60%). The server has about 400 mailboxes on it and has 1Gb of physical memory and 1Gb page file. It is the same spec as 4 other servers in the site which all sit at around 60% utilization. As it is a 24x7 service we offer on our server, down time is very limited. Is there any way I can check the performance optimizer settings without stopping the store? 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