My production server is a high-spec DELL box with plenty of redundancy built
in. I have an identical recovery server which when not needed for recovery
purposes runs slave DNS, secondary WINS, monitoring for the production
server etc. We have a SAN for the directory and store data, with lots of
redundancy built-in. In the event of some motherboard failure etc I can copy
a disk image of the system drive onto the recovery server so that it is
exactly the same as the production server (takes about 5 mins) and then
point this at the SAN for data.

It's not as fast as a cluster failover but we had so many problems with that
it was unreal. Since going back to standalone servers I have had 100%
uptime, and sleep easy at night.

Dan 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 March 2002 14:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: E2k Clustering

Missy,

If you would not recommend clustering, what do you recommend for high 
availablility environments?

Dennis Depp

At 11:17 AM 3/13/2002 -0500, missy koslosky wrote:
>While I'm really not into arguing the point, while some people at Compaq
>and/or MS might recommend A/A over A/P, not everyone would.
>
>And yes, I'm one of the ones at Compaq who would recommend A/P if I had
>a client that was dead set on clustering.  But I'd try to talk them out
>of clustering if at all possible.
>
>Missy
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sabo, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:00 AM
>Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
>
>
>I talked to compaq/microsoft today, I am confident in our situation here
>that an active/active is the right choice for us.
>
>Currently we have the following:
>Server no. 1 - Quad Pentium Pro 200 MHZ (very old chipset technology) -
>1 MEG cache on each processor - 2 GB RAM: (800 mailboxes/heavy users)
>The most I ever saw the processor level was at 50% usage, most of the
>time it is around 10%-20% usage
>
>Server no. 2 - dual Pentium III 500 MHZ Xeon Processor - 2 Meg cache on
>each processor - 2 GB RAM (6000 mailboxes/light users)- The most I ever
>saw these processors was at 35%, most of the time it is around 5%-10%
>
>
>We are going to the following:
>Two servers running w2k adv sp2 e2k sp2 - Quad Pentium III Xeon 700
>MHZ - 2 MB cache of each processor- 3 GB physical RAM using a
>Storageworks San solution.
>
>I would say these machines should run around 5-10% CPU usage.
>
>
>Eric Sabo
>NT Administrator
>Computing Services Center
>California University of Pennsylvania
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:59 AM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
>
>
>Use Active/Passive clusters when possible to increase scalability and
>reduce failover times. Active/Active clusters are only supported in
>2-node configurations in which each node has a maximum of 40 percent
>loading and 1900 simultaneous users.
>
>"Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server Service Pack 2 Deployment Guide"
>
>In short, there are NO issues when running in Active/Passive, but when
>running in Active/Active you have a high chance of a failover failing
>because of memory fragmentation. Active/Passive is going to provide you
>with high reliability failover. Active/Active is going to cause grief.
>
>
>Let me turn the tables, why do you think that Active/Active is better
>than Active/Passive?
>
>
>Ed
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:38 AM
>Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
>Conversation: E2k Clustering
>Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
>
>
>Hi there
>
>I was looking over the white paper, and according to Microsoft, both
>active/passive and active/active are recommended in the below listed
>whitepaper.  Do you have access to information that suggests otherwise??
>
>Thanks
>
>Russell
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:51 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
>
>
>Make it Active/Passive as recommended and it's a moot point.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Posted At: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:42 PM
>Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
>Conversation: E2k Clustering
>Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
>
>
>When they talk about concurrent connections, does microsoft mean if one
>users is using a mapi client that would mean 3 connections there for
>just one user.  Is this correct?
>
>Eric Sabo
>NT Administrator
>Computing Services Center
>California University of Pennsylvania
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:20 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: E2k Clustering
>
>
>Hi there
>
>According to the MS whitepaper, here are the limits for active / active:
>
>"After you deploy your cluster, make sure you do the following:
>
>Limit the number of concurrent connection (users) per node to a maximum
>of 1,900, and proactively monitor the cluster to insure that the CPU
>does not exceed 40 percent (load generated from users) loading."
>
>There is more information in the white paper that will help you.  The
>name is, "Deploying Microsoft Exchange 2000 server service pack 2
>clusters".
>
>Hope this helps you
>
>Russell
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ashby, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:50 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: E2k Clustering
>
>
>We are evaluating an Exchange 2000 Active/Active cluster, but I remember
>an old limitation of 1000 clients per virtual server.
>
>In my searching of technet, and other knowledgebase solutions, I have
>not been able to find this documented anywhere.
>
>Is there a technical limit to the number of clients per virtual server?
>
>Proposed hardware:  2 quad processor, 2GB systems connected to SAN via
>fibre channel.  100MB NIC connections.
>
>Roughly 4k users.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Andrew
>
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