When I subbed this list some 2 years ago. I was promptly told to read the
FAQ. I did, and thus avoided the brutality you speak of.

--steve







> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> You guys are brutal on here to newcomers.  I've been in this 
> business for
> 11 years and only been doing Exchange for 1 year.  Cut me some slack
> please.
> 
> 
>  And I am right behind you Erik on Don't do BLBs and do a 
> little reading.
> > Jeesh.  If you have been on this list even just lurking in 
> the background,
> > you would see how many times we say NO BLBs with that hamburger.
> > 
> > Geoff.......
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:24 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not trying to be an @$$hole here, but I stand behind my 
> statement.
> > 
> > As others have said: 
> > - Don't do BLBs
> > - Don't use any vendor's OF agent on your Exchange server.
> > - Perform a proper Exchange backup.  How?  Read the WPs and 
> report back
> > tomorrow with any 
> > additional questions.  
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:09 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't get it.  What gives you the impression I don't know
> > > what Circular
> > > Logging is?  Just because I have it turned on.  I would turn 
> > > it off if we
> > > could figure out how to back up the edb files and could 
> flush the log
> > > files.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  It sounds like you don't really know what circular logging
> > > is, or what
> > > the
> > > > impact is.
> > > > 
> > > > Please, for the sake of your job, your company and your
> > > company's mail
> > > > resources, locate and print out the Exchange 5.5 Backup 
> and Disaster
> > > > Recovery whitepapers from MS' website.
> > > > 
> > > > Do not leave the building without having the printouts in
> > > your hands.
> > > > 
> > > > Do not go to sleep tonight until you have read them.  All
> > > will be explained
> > > > in those whitepapers.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:39 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know what circular logging is and that's why we have it 
> > > > > turned on.   
> > > > > 
> > > > > My plan is to just stop the services and backup the pub.edb
> > > > > and priv.edb
> > > > > until we can get the OF Agent working.  As far as BLB's, the 
> > > > > FIRM has to
> > > > > do those I've tried to get them to not do them but they want 
> > > > > to be able to
> > > > > restore a mailbox.  This is a law firm remember the Lawyers 
> > > > > are in charge
> > > > > not IT.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Flushing the log files are I guess removing them or 
> renaming them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Do you know what circular logging is?  Do you know what the
> > > > > logfiles are
> > > > > > for?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:30 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On this particular server we are doing circular logging but
> > > > > that shouldn't
> > > > > > hurt anything.  We were using BE's OFO but my Sys MGR again
> > > > > made us shut
> > > > > > it off because we were having constant problems with it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When you say flush the logs does, what exactly do you mean?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > OH MY GODS AND GODDESSES!!  No wonder you have trouble with
> > > > > this server.
> > > > > > > Stop the BLB and do it the right way - pub and priv and
> > > > > flush logs when
> > > > > > > complete.  You aren't doing circular logging too, are you?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Just use the exchange agent from BE and you never
> > > have to stop ANY
> > > > > > service.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:20 PM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I know this has come up before but how is everyone else
> > > > > backing up their
> > > > > > > Exchange servers.  We're using Backup Exec and only
> > > backing up the
> > > > > > > mailboxes not the pub.edb or priv.edb.  Is it wise to
> > > > > stop those services
> > > > > > > periodically to back those up?  And how often?  We're not
> > > > > using the Open
> > > > > > > File Agent.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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