Did you read the whitepapers?  The minute amount of information Tristan gave
you isn't enough knowledge.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Thank you this is exactly what I was looking for.> 
> 
> 
> You're talking about the actual files - yes? Nothing will backup the
> > physical files - when you do a backup of the IS, that is 
> backing up the
> > *data* in the files, which is what you want. You don't want 
> to back up the
> > files.
> > 
> > As for circular logging, once you are backing up the IS 
> (again, don't worry
> > about the files!), the logs will flush.
> > 
> > Tris
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Tristan Gayford
> > Deputy Systems & Network Manager
> > Cranfield University at Silsoe
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 08 August 2002 20:49
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > So, maybe BE is skipping the pub.edb and priv.edb because 
> we're backing
> > doing the BLB backups?  Maybe you can't do the BLB and 
> entire IS at the
> > same time.
> > 
> > 
> > Yes that is getting the full IS store... Not doing BLB but the full
> > > Monty.....
> > > 
> > > Bryce Weathersby
> > > Networking Specialist I
> > > Lamar Institute Of Technology
> > > Beaumont, TX
> > > Phone: 409-839-2040
> > > Fax: 409-839-2931
> > > http://www.lit.edu
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:39 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What does it look like in the Job Log.....All I see is 
> the exchange
> > > mailboxes, and the IS being backuped. Though for the 
> Backup Type on the IS
> > > it's says "Full - Database & Logs (flush committed logs). 
> I'm getting it
> > > right there aren't I?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Weathersby, Bryce
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:36 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The Exchange Agent will back up the entire file, the 
> Exchange Information
> > > Store. Instead of doing the BLB just the backup of the IS 
> is done. Much
> > > faster. If the lawyers are really concerned about the 
> ability to restore
> > one
> > > mailbox, look at a tool from Ontrack called 
> PowerControls. It allows you
> > to
> > > open up the .edb file and restore one mail or folder or 
> email email back
> > to
> > > the exchange server, or out to a .pst. I used it to help 
> recover from a
> > > disaster. It opened the file even when all of the 
> Microsoft recovery
> > > attempts failed. I did not recover every mailbox, but I 
> got 93.6% back
> > (long
> > > story).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bryce Weathersby
> > > Networking Specialist I
> > > Lamar Institute Of Technology
> > > Beaumont, TX
> > > Phone: 409-839-2040
> > > Fax: 409-839-2931
> > > http://www.lit.edu
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:32 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We are using BE ver 8.5 getting ready to upgrade to 8.6 
> and we're using
> > the
> > > Exchange Agent but not the Open File Agent.  We cannot 
> backup the pub.edb
> > > and priv.edb without using the Open File Agent.  You have 
> to stop the
> > > services in order to back up those files.  Somone on here 
> mentioned an
> > > Exchange Module is that something different than an 
> Exchange Agent?  I'd
> > > like to know how some of you are backing up the pub.ed 
> and priv.edb
> > without
> > > stopping the services.
> > > 
> > > Karon 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  PS the fact that you are likely doing BLB would contribute to the
> > problems
> > > > you indicated with backing up in the last post you did...
> > > > 
> > > > 1.) read the FAQ
> > > > 2.) sound like you have the exchnage agent loaded (must 
> have to be 
> > > > able to do BLB) lose the Open File Agent (assuming you are not 
> > > > confusing the Open File with the Exchange Agent)
> > > > 3.) Lose the BLB, and back up the IS..etc... (read the 
> BE stuff too
> > > its
> > > > good)
> > > > 
> > > > 4.) Lose your Sys Mgr with all there cert's obviously 
> that are doing
> > > > no good...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > bill
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:20 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I know this has come up before but how is everyone else 
> backing up 
> > > > their Exchange servers.  We're using Backup Exec and 
> only backing up
> > > > the mailboxes not the pub.edb or priv.edb.  Is it wise 
> to stop those
> > > > services periodically to back those up?  And how often? 
>  We're not 
> > > > using the Open File Agent.
> > > > 
> > > > 
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