just jumping in late here but why not play this the other way, ask him for permission to run a DR drill using the take home drive. Invite him to play, then when it fails you can start talking about a real DR backup plan. You know its crap, we know its crap, the secret is to show the idiot this without saying look you idiot this is not going to work. Just my .02 Jeff
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware See I already knew the backup strategy was crap. Yet my boss thought it was a great idea. So the easiest way to win the argument was to show the failure of the physical device instead of talking strategy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sakti Chakravarty (Senteq) Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware I quite agree, you seem to be missing the point that the backup strategy is crap, and it's not due to hard disk transportation issues. I think you have the ammo you were after, now use it! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2002 5:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware Get off that angle. He's not dragging it home from the bumper, he's giving it a ride on a nice upholstered seat in his Lexus. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:20 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Backup Hardware Subject: RE: Backup Hardware Still wouldn't all the vibration and shocks that the HD will suffer from transport eventually lead to corruption or bad sectors? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware And if that is the case, he could be transporting a blank hot spare back and forth. -----Original Message----- From: Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware Must be a RAID1 (2 drives) + one hot spare. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware Which is what I was thinking too. But my boss swears that there's 3 drives in there connected to that controller. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Hardware Only one drive out of the RAID5? Maybe I did not read that correctly but he only has bits of part of the data. What can he accomplish with that one drive in case of disaster? -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Hardware My boss has a friend that has a company that backs up their servers by taking a spare hard drive from a RAID 5 config home ever night. Currently we are using a VAX tape drive to back up our systems. He seems to think that the hard drive solution sounds like a great idea. I think it's possibly the worst idea ever created. Besides the constant vibrations, and temperature changes that the hard drives would have to withstand could everyone give me some more reasons as to why this is a bad idea. I think I just need a little ammo from other admins to help convince him. 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