Yeah...  That's too bad really...

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook


When your goal is to sell as many seats as possible @ $9.95 each, you cut
corners and customers get what they pay for. Welcome to the wonderful world
of capitalism.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> 
> 
> But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the
> services???  Maybe I'm just being blind, but I would think 
> one would want to provide a more secure solution.  Of course, 
> added costs go with that solution, but one would apply those 
> costs to their clients I would think...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> 
> 
> I can seee some instances where the support costs related to
> helping Windows 95 users install and configure VPN might make 
> an ASP shudder. InnerHost is certainly not the only ASP to 
> provide Exchange access in that manner.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:14 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > I would disagree with that...  A VPN solution with a  RADIUS server
> > would fit your needs quite well...
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > MAPI across the Internet. Please no flames. There is no VPN
> that would
> > be universal enough for all kinds of customers.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > How do they connect?  VPN, Direct Dial??
> > 
> > Are these users POPing their email?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > Would you like me to give you an example?
> > 
> > we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exchange servers
> > from all over the world, from a variety of client OSes. 
> Their machines
> > are not members of our domain. They can't possibly use our WINS.
> > 
> > What would you do to allow their PCs to resolve the short
> name of our
> > Exchange server?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > No there aren't. There are times in which its easier than
> doing it a
> > different way, but that doesn't mean there are times in which they
> > must be used.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:17 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > there are some situations when one must use HOSTS file.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:07 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Neither, use WINS and DNS, works every time...
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: RBHATIA [mailto:RBHATIA@;AIIM.ORG]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:18 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is it the LMHOSTS file or the HOSTS file ?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:24 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > yes you should use the lmhost file on the client pc to map to your 
> > > exchange server thats what we use here at my office and it
> > works good.
> > >  If you need
> > > more help dont hesitate to email me.
> > > 
> > > rich
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: JPC [mailto:jpciocon@;hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:10 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi, folks:
> > > 
> > > Mixed mode, currently migrating users from 5.5 to E2k.
> Remote users
> > > have Outlook 2002 on W2k Professional laptops and Alcatel
> > > PERMIT/Client.
> > > 
> > > These users connect via dial-up, they can access their
> > mailboxes and
> > > send/receive no problem.  When they use LinkSys router and
> > DSL, they
> > > can access our network, the internet and other network resources
> > > EXCEPT for their mailboxes on the E2k server.
> > Synchronization failure
> > > messages are
> > > related to "network problems preventing access to the Exchange
> > > server" or the RPC message box "retrieving data from Exchange 
> > > server".  These eventually fail and nothing is exchanged 
> between the
> > > client and their server
> > > mailbox.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone seen this?  If so, what tips would you suggest?
> > > 
> > > Thanks very much.
> > > -Juancho
> > > 
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