We run our own Exchange infrastructure. I've never considered outsourcing
email - it isn't cost effective in any organization that I've been
associated with over the last 10+ years.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> 
> 
> Who do you use?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> 
> 
> Frankly, I consider that piss-poor engineering. I guess 
> that's part of why
> I've never heard of any of those companies for hosting Exchange..
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:17 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > Check with Mi8 or Intermedia. They use HOSTS file too (not LMhosts)
> > I think Mi8 has a special little VB app that they give to 
> > their customers - it runs and modifies the HOSTS file to 
> > include the name and IP address of their back-end Exchange servers.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:41 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > Seeing as Outlook does a wonderful job of using DNS as its 
> > first line of
> > name resolution, I'd suggest a DNS entry.
> > 
> > I'd be willing to wager that other hosting companies don't 
> > use LMHosts for
> > their clients.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Would you like me to give you an example?
> > > 
> > > we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exchange 
> > > servers from all over the world, from a variety of client OSes.
> > > Their machines are not members of our domain. They can't 
> > > possibly use our WINS.
> > > 
> > > What would you do to allow their PCs to resolve the short 
> > > name of our Exchange server?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > No there aren't. There are times in which its easier than 
> doing it a
> > > different way, but that doesn't mean there are times in which 
> > > they must be
> > > used.
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > > Atlanta, GA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:17 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > there are some situations when one must use HOSTS file.
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:07 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Neither, use WINS and DNS, works every time...
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: RBHATIA [mailto:RBHATIA@;AIIM.ORG] 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:18 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is it the LMHOSTS file or the HOSTS file ?
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:24 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > yes you should use the lmhost file on the client pc to map to 
> > > > your exchange
> > > > server thats what we use here at my office and it works good. 
> > > >  If you need
> > > > more help dont hesitate to email me.
> > > > 
> > > > rich
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: JPC [mailto:jpciocon@;hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:10 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: VPN breaks Outlook
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi, folks:
> > > > 
> > > > Mixed mode, currently migrating users from 5.5 to E2k.  
> > > > Remote users have
> > > > Outlook 2002 on W2k Professional laptops and Alcatel 
> > PERMIT/Client.
> > > > 
> > > > These users connect via dial-up, they can access their 
> > mailboxes and
> > > > send/receive no problem.  When they use LinkSys router and 
> > > > DSL, they can
> > > > access our network, the internet and other network resources 
> > > > EXCEPT for
> > > > their mailboxes on the E2k server.  Synchronization failure 
> > > > messages are
> > > > related to "network problems preventing access to the 
> > > > Exchange server" or
> > > > the RPC message box "retrieving data from Exchange 
> server".  These
> > > > eventually fail and nothing is exchanged between the client 
> > > > and their server
> > > > mailbox.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone seen this?  If so, what tips would you suggest?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks very much.
> > > > -Juancho
> > > > 
> > > > 
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