Multiple VPN can get ugly. Most clients can't handle it. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:56 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Do you offer one universal VPN to all customers or do they > get a VPN that best matches their client capabilities? Do > they set up their own PCs to use VPN or do you provide > consulting services? > > P.S. this just popped up in my brain - what if one needs to > simultaneously connect to multiple VPNs, is this possible? > For example a customer may need to use VPN to connect to one > place and at the same time use another VPN to connect to an > Exchange server. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julian Stone [mailto:julian.stone@;netstore.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > We also "allow" Mapi across the internet, but with VPN > systems for those > customers who are willing to pay for the added security. > > Some customers have even requested & got non HTTPS OWA access, where > their password is sent in clear text !! > > Yours, > > Julian Stone > Exchange 2000 Consultant and Webmaster > > Sent from Microsoft Exchange 2000 SP3 build 6249.4 > > Netstore - Europe's Leading Application Service Provider > > Tel: +44 (0) 1344 444349 > Mobile: +44 (0) 7710 122 312 > Fax: +44 (0) 207 681 1238 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > LOCATION: http://www.netstore.net/contact/location.htm > HomePage: http://www.netstore.net/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: 30 October 2002 17:22 pm > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Been like this for 2 years now. > > Of course I always look for ways to make it better and safer. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > When your goal is to sell as many seats as possible @ $9.95 each, you > cut corners and customers get what they pay for. Welcome to the > wonderful world of capitalism. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:44 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the > > services??? Maybe I'm just being blind, but I would think > > one would want to provide a more secure solution. Of course, > > added costs go with that solution, but one would apply those > > costs to their clients I would think... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > I can seee some instances where the support costs related to > > helping Windows 95 users install and configure VPN might make > > an ASP shudder. InnerHost is certainly not the only ASP to > > provide Exchange access in that manner. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:14 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a > RADIUS server > > > would fit your needs quite well... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > MAPI across the Internet. Please no flames. There is no VPN > > that would > > > be universal enough for all kinds of customers. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:28 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > How do they connect? VPN, Direct Dial?? > > > > > > Are these users POPing their email? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > Would you like me to give you an example? > > > > > > we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our > Exchange servers > > > from all over the world, from a variety of client OSes. > > Their machines > > > are not members of our domain. They can't possibly use our WINS. > > > > > > What would you do to allow their PCs to resolve the short > > name of our > > > Exchange server? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > No there aren't. There are times in which its easier than > > doing it a > > > different way, but that doesn't mean there are times in which they > > > must be used. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:17 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > > > > there are some situations when one must use HOSTS file. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:07 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither, use WINS and DNS, works every time... > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: RBHATIA [mailto:RBHATIA@;AIIM.ORG] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:18 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it the LMHOSTS file or the HOSTS file ? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:24 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > > > > yes you should use the lmhost file on the client pc to > map to your > > > > > exchange server thats what we use here at my office and it > > > works good. > > > > If you need > > > > more help dont hesitate to email me. > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: JPC [mailto:jpciocon@;hotmail.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:10 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: VPN breaks Outlook > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, folks: > > > > > > > > Mixed mode, currently migrating users from 5.5 to E2k. > > Remote users > > > > have Outlook 2002 on W2k Professional laptops and Alcatel > > > > PERMIT/Client. > > > > > > > > These users connect via dial-up, they can access their > > > mailboxes and > > > > send/receive no problem. When they use LinkSys router and > > > DSL, they > > > > can access our network, the internet and other network resources > > > > EXCEPT for their mailboxes on the E2k server. > > > Synchronization failure > > > > messages are > > > > related to "network problems preventing access to the Exchange > > > > server" or the RPC message box "retrieving data from Exchange > > > > server". These eventually fail and nothing is exchanged > > between the > > > > client and their server > > > > mailbox. > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen this? 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