Interesting article on one persons problems with getting listed on a
RBL:
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2896281,00.h
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Adams
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


For as long as I've been the person responsible for checking the
postmaster mailbox.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Have they always been?

William 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Adams
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


My guess is that you just had a bad day (or week) with them.  Besides
being quite responsive, they send a warning to your postmaster@ mailbox
when they list you.  Really quite courteous.

-----Original Message-----
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:hcoleman@;state.mt.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


That was part of the problem...we went to the link on their site for our
IP address, but no information was available on the specific message. It
just gave a date that showed when we were first blacklisted. We spent
about 2 days trying to get additional information from them. They
finally sent us the header from the message. After tracking down the
message and sender, we came to the conclusion that it was a legitimate
message (not spam or
UCE)
and that the 30 or so recipients were all individuals that the sender
knew. We sent this information back to SPAMCop, where it apparently sat
in the bit bucket for 2 more days. They never disagreed with our opinion
that the message wasn't spam, but finally de-listed us. Really
frustrating, all in all.

Hunter Coleman
State of Montana

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Perzactly - and in general they display the specific email message(s)
that won you the honor of being on their list.

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> I'm surprised - I've never had any problems with SPAMCop.
> We've had relay problems, which I was able to resolve to 
> their satisfaction and get off their list within hours.  
> We've also been reported as spammers (we send bulk email out 
> to our own customers, with an unsub option - we still get 
> reported now and then), and I've been able to get that 
> resolved just as quickly.
> 
> At the very least, with SPAMCop, they *do* respond.
> Osirusoft and SPEWS do not.
> 
> Darcy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parrett, Sue [mailto:sparrett@;state.mt.us]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> From our experience, Spamcop.net is just as bad as any other
> RBL.  They
> blacklisted our domain erroneously for 8 days in August and a 
> couple days in
> Sept.  Numerous domains were unable to accept mail from us.  
> We considered
> their actions a "Denial of Service" and had to threaten them 
> with legal
> action to remove our domain name from their list. 
> 
> Sue Parrett
> E-Mail Support Specialist
> STATE OF MONTANA - DOA/ ITSD
> (406) 444-1392
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> More likely a combination of b) and a fundamental lack of
> understanding of
> how the RBL they have chosen works with regards to managing 
> their black hole
> lists. Purusal of the archives with regards to Mr. Schwartz 
> and Dr. Cumming
> about this time last year should provide some valuable 
> insight to the issues
> with RBLs in general.
> 
> That being said, I'm fairly impressed with the Spamcop.net RBL - they 
> provide documentation of their blocked senders via the web, and are 
> very quick to retest and remove if the problem has been solved.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 


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