Ask our own Ms Darcy Adams who found herself on an RBL for no reason other than her IP address's were close to a known spammer.
-----Original Message----- From: David Gibbons [mailto:David.Gibbons@;Calibercollision.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Mr. Scharff, I understand that you're currently a bit jaded with this topic (or you could be enjoying yourself not sure... The email intonation module on my pc is broken *grin*). But, would you mind taking a moment to explain or send links to previous explanations as to why RBL is not a good idea? With the research that I have conducted I cannot find any serious issues with it. Of course I'm missing quite a lot of first hand knowledge with this technology since I have yet to incorporate within my test environment. I fear that I might be apart of that 32% your talking about and wish to... um... well... *shrug* not be. Thanks for the input! David > Perhaps you should read your e-mails before you send them. Just cause > you wrote something down and it sounds one way in your head doesn't > meant that it will sound the same way on the other end. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:02 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > I guess the #include humor.h module wasn't loaded for you this > morning. I'd suggest that the spelling remark was only rude to a > subset of the 32% of admins who actually could spell RBL and thus > understood the barb. As a journalism major, with an English minor I am > quite concerned about any grammatical errors I might have made in the > comment you are referring to. Would you please be so kind as to point > out my grammar errors so that I might endeavor to eliminate them from > my future postings? > > Now, as to your point that my statement that of the 32% of mail > administrators who can spell RBL many are unable to comprehend the > implications of it: I've made more than 8,000 replies in various > public forums in the last 12 months. I've read over 50,000 threads > during that same period. It's been a relatively slow year for me, but > even if we take those low water numbers back 4 years it's still a > fairly substantial number of administrators and posts that I've > encountered. Based on that vast experience with and exposure to mail > administrators around the world, I find it highly likely that 16% or > more of mail administrators don't understand fully the implications of > the RBL technology they are using and or advocating. > > It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb. It has to do with being > knowledgeable about a particular issue or technology. My comments were > not directed at any particular individual user on this list and were > more accurately a diatribe against the technology than those who > choose to implement it. I'm sorry you chose to misinterpret my > comments. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Walsh, Ric [mailto:Walshr@;national-citymortgage.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:52 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Ok your "spelling" remark was rude to all of us. > > > > You following remark despite it's poor grammar seems to say that the > > rest of us are dumber that you. I'd have to say that it was ALL rude. > > > > Ric Walsh > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Walsh, Ric > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:32 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > > > > Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that. > > > Have > > you > > > though of taking an anger management class? > > > > > > Ric Walsh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > > > > > > I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell > > > > RBL. > > > > > The majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the > > > > implications of > > > the > > > > functionality on their environment, whether they understand how > > > > it > > > > > actually works or not. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...) > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to > > > > > comprehend its functionality? > > > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of > > > > > Chris Scharff > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL > > > > > actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd > > > > > parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have > > > > > > to join you in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo > > > > > is costing their company business. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE > > > > > EMS Sales Engineer > > > > > MessageOne > > > > > 512.652.4500 x-244 > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still 3rd party. I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the current stance on that is that they're "thinking about > > > > > > possibly" including RBL support in a future release. > > > > > > > > > > > > Darcy > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > Subject: RBL's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd > > > > > > party? > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
