----- Original Message -----
From: "Bennett, Joshua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: X.400 issues


> Not really an option.
>
> The scenario is this:
> The one remote server is in San Diego that used to be connected to
> the other remote server in Irvine, CA by an X.400 connector over a T1.
> The only server that was connected to the hub server on the E. Coast was
> the one in Irvine. There was an X.400 connector between SD and Irvine,
then
> an X.400 connector to the EC. There is now an separate X.400
> connector from SD and Irvine to the hub server. The Irvine server
> has an IMC that was used by the old company (that was bought by us). The
> cost on the connectors to the hub server from each site is set to 1.
> The old connector from SD to Irvine has a cost of 100. The IMC on
> Irvine is set to 99. I would like to remove the old connector from
> SD-Irvine but, the connectors from each remote site to the hub server is
> sooooooo erratic that I have mail that routes from SD-Irvine-out the
> IMC in Irvine then back to the hub server on the E. Coast through the
> corporate IMC.
>
> There is the jist of what I am going through. It is driving me nuts trying
> to troubleshoot this.
>
> Please help.....
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: X.400 issues
>
>
> What is it about your routing table that is causing the looping messages?
Is
> it possible for you to remove redundant routes, even just one or two, to
see
> what happens?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:jbennett@;cotelligent.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:56 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> >
> >
> > Yes, the queues back up for an hour or so then flush clean in
> > a 2 minute
> > span once the X.400 connection is successful. However, due to
> > the way the
> > routing table is, I have messages flowing in a roundabout fashion.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> >
> >
> > IIRC, you're getting "exceeded the maximum number of
> > associations" which
> > usually indicates that the total number of connections and
> > associations,
> > which I believe is 9 associations and 10 connects per association.
> >
> > Are you sure there aren't any looping messages, or a butload of public
> > folder replication traffic? Is there anything in the MTA queue?
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:jbennett@;cotelligent.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:11 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > >
> > >
> > > I've adjusted the number of control blocks the MTA has available and
> > > again, it did not correct the situation.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:47 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > >
> > >
> > > The previous suggestion about tuning the MTA stack is where I'd
> > > start. The best reference is Managing Exchange 5.5 by Paul
> > > Robichaux, if you have that
> > > handy. If not, the parameter I think you're looking for is
> > > called control
> > > blocks.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > > Atlanta, GA
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:jbennett@;cotelligent.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:24 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I use "supposed to be" due to the issue at hand that is
> > driving me
> > > > insane.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:02 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Replace "supposed to be" with "definitely are"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > > > Atlanta, GA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:jbennett@;cotelligent.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:27 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > These servers are all connected by WAN links and X.400
> > > > connectors are
> > > > > supposed to be more resilient to network interruptions.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:thlabse@;hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:19 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Re: X.400 issues
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Curious as to why you are using X400 instead of Site
> > > Connectors. Yes
> > > > > x400 are more efficient just curious.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Darcy Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'd think twice about that one - if you have a multi-site
> > > > > > organization,
> > > > > any directory replication connectors that depend on those X400
> > > > > connectors will have to be either pointed to another
> > connector in
> > > > > the same site, or
> > > > > deleted before you can delete the connector.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, if you delete the dirrep connector, be prepared to
> > > > rebuild any
> > > > > cross-site distribution lists after you recreate the connectors
> > > > > (X400 and dirrep).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Darcy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:jbennett@;cotelligent.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:24 AM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried everything that you have described and to
> > > no avail. I
> > > > > received
> > > > > > a suggestion to remove the connectors and rebuild the
> > > TCP stack in
> > > > > Exchange
> > > > > > to clear this up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any opinions on this idea...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:danielc@;dc-resources.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:02 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 57: the other MTA has a limit on the number of available
> > > > connections
> > > > > > 289: because of that limit, a connection to that MTA
> > > could not be
> > > > > > opened
> > > > > > 1290: somewhat a repeat of 289, but more info
> > > > > > 9202: low-level diagnostic on the connection failure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In general this sequence of events can be ignored if mail
> > > > otherwise
> > > > > > flows. It's a temporary condition. If it keeps happening
> > > > > over and over
> > > > > > and the queue to that MTA keeps backing up then you'll need to
> > > > > > actually
> > > > > troubleshoot
> > > > > > what is wrong (i.e. raise the number of connections on the
> > > > > other MTA
> > > > > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > have control over it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Precht, do you ever add anything of value?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:45 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.eventid.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-224131@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Bennett,
> > > > > > Joshua
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:05
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Event ID 57:  Source: MSExchangeMTA  Type: Warning
> > > > Category: X.400
> > > > > Service
> > > > > > The limit on the number of associations allowed to and
> > > from entity
> > > > > > (X.400 address) has been reached. The limit is 9. [MTA
> > > XFER-IN 19
> > > > > > 34](12)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Event ID 289:  Source: MSExchangeMTA  Type: Warning
> > > > Category: X.400
> > > > > Service
> > > > > > A connection to (X.400 address) could not be opened [MTA
> > > > XFER-IN 19
> > > > > > 26](12)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Event ID 1290:  Source: MSExchagneMTA  Type: Warning
> > > > > Category: X.400
> > > > > > Service A locally initiated association to (X.400 address) was
> > > > > > refused. The failure reason provider was 0 and the
> > > reason was 0.
> > > > > > Control block index 6. Type 1. [PLATFORM KERNEL 25 130](12)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Event ID 9202: Source: MSExchangeMTA  Type: Warning  Category:
> > > > > > Operating System A sockets error 10061 on an accept[]
> > call was
> > > > > > detected. The MTA will attempt to recover the sockets
> > > connection.
> > > > > > Control block index: /. [BASE IL TCP/IP DRVR 8 256](12)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These are the Event ID's that continually pop up on the
> > > one remote
> > > > > > server with the same symptoms, the other server just
> > > > > produces the 289
> > > > > > event id only.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Josh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:53 AM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: X.400 issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Admission: I'm entirely too lazy to go look up the random
> > > > > odd event ID
> > > > > > or guestimate what "too long"[1] means. It there any
> > > > chance you (the
> > > > > collective
> > > > > > you) could include the Event ID source and description in
> > > > > addition to
> > > > > > the number? And that you could provide an example of
> > > > sent/ received
> > > > > > times
> > > > > which
> > > > > > constitute a "too long" delivery time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] When I worked at $vbc we initially had an MS Mail PO
> > > > > config which
> > > > > > routinely resulted in >8 hour delivery times of mail from
> > > > the US to
> > > > > > Indonesia. If a user called and said it'd been six hours
> > > > > and the mail
> > > > > wasn't
> > > > > > delivered, we didn't troubleshoot it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:jbennett@;cotelligent.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:55 AM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have an incredibly annoying situation going on that I
> > > > > can't seem
> > > > > > > to get a grip on. I am not sure of the magnitude of the
> > > > > errors I am
> > > > > > > seeing due to the fact that mail is still flowing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is my setup:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         I am running WNT4.0 SP6 / EX 5.5 EE SP4 all
> > > > > hotfixes on all
> > > > > > > these servers. I have a hub and spoke configuration
> > > within my EX
> > > > > > > org. All my remote servers connect (through X.400
> > > > > connectors) to a
> > > > > > > central EX server that serves as my IMS to the
> > > internet. All the
> > > > > > > spoke servers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > are BDC's in NT domains. The hub server is a member
> > > server in a
> > > > > > > central domain that all other domains have 2-way trusts
> > > > > to. All the
> > > > > > > remote servers (scattered across the US) are connected
> > > > to the hub
> > > > > > > server by full T1 lines.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My issue is this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         The MTA on the hub server backs up and an Event
> > > > > ID: 289 is
> > > > > > > written to the App log then the queue flushes clear and
> > > > > all mail is
> > > > > > > delivered without incident. This seems to occur about
> > > every 10
> > > > > > > minutes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > or so during the day. There does not appear to be, at
> > > > > least on the
> > > > > > > surface, any connectivity issues. Should I just ignore
> > > > > these errors,
> > > > > > > as the mail is being delivered? Or is this just the
> > > > > beginning of a
> > > > > > > major issue about to explode in my lap?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please help, I have dug around MS site and Google and
> > > > > come up with
> > > > > > > little to no help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Josh Bennett
> > > > > > > Exchange Admin\Systems Engineer
> > > > > > > Cotelligent, Inc.
> > > > > > > 401 Parkway Drive
> > > > > > > Broomall, PA. 19008
> > > > > > > 610-359-5929
> > > > > > > www.cotelligent.com
> > > > > > >
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