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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hansen, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


EXACTLY!

Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP

-----Original Message-----
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Everyone?


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-----Original Message-----
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours



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