He's a moron.  Operating systems aren't secure.  Secured deployments of operating 
systems are.  Which would be the job of oh, say, a security guy.  Tell him to quit 
waving his magic wand, take off the pointy hat, and do his job.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:06 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: The SEC is killing me.
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-----Original Message-----
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both Smartware and 
Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement to make the database in 
3.3 do something that in theory it could not.
So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens that 
looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving the illusion 
that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was really quick and easy 
to do, since any command could be linked back to itself, and module linking 
effectively made the nesting levels unlimited.
It was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come close to 
it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of the things that 
Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A Smartware II program could 
rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write directly to things like the disk 
controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC and so on.  In a Netware environment it 
could do all of this across multiple machines and even retrieve the values of any 
address using a pair of linked macros.  You could write a help center program, 
complete with take over or merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a bit), like 
that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing macros work. Loved it 
for that.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours



_________________________________________________________________
List posting FAQ:       http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:               http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe:         mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

_________________________________________________________________
List posting FAQ:       http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:               http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe:         mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



_________________________________________________________________
List posting FAQ:       http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:               http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe:         mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reply via email to