Scott, and others, I totally get your point, and to some degree agree.
An interesting addition... The Australian federal govt recently (last year) passed legislation to say that it is illegal to forward and e-mail without the authors express permission. Thus, a whole NEW addition to the disclaimer in Australia is popping up, saying that the author DOES NOT give permission for the e-mail to be forwarded. I think, whether we like it or not, the disclaimer is here to stay... It is how we as Admins manage it. My additional $0.02 (inc GST). themolk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:24 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the > disclaimer issue it bad joke. The true responsibility of who > the message went to is in the hands of the sender. If the > message was addressed correctly then the need for disclaimers > would be a non-issue. > > Sorry I watched this thread long enough that I had to put my > two cents in there. I find it hard that anyone should accept > the burden of responsibility > for receiving an electronic message that was sent to them by > mistake. And > those disclaimers that try to shift the burden of > responiblity from the shoulders of the sender to the reciever > are a sad attempt at just that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:34 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > What about Klingon and Elvish? Google is available in both, > so people must speak it. Should we not then make disclaimers > available in these languages too? > > themolk. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:13 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > About a billion people on this planet speak Chinese ... going to > > included that as well ? I like the fact you are going to > add Dutch to > > the disclaimer, but around 99% of the Dutch population speaks and > > understands English very well. > > > > ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts > dealing with > > Exchange 2003 ** > > -------------------------- > > Martin Tuip > > MVP Exchange > > Exchange 2000 List owner > > www.exchange-mail.org > > www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Midgley, Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:10 PM > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > Yup, Greek and Double-Dutch are in the list of languages > > that need to > > > be covered. Web links are unacceptable since there is no way of > > > checking whether the recipient clicked the link, or they > > might not be > > > online when they read the message. > > > > > > We thought of using Latin since most of the legal team know that. > > Esperanto > > > is a bit too leading edge. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 18 June 2003 13:54 > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > > > *Has* anyone tested email disclaimers in the courts in the > > UK, EU or > > > US? > > > > > > I'm not aware of any cases. > > > > > > I do find it ironic that lawyers, who knowingly write in > a way that > > > most people do not find clear, should be concerned that the > > disclaimer > > > should > > be > > > written so as to be understood by any recipient. It's > all Greek to > > > me. > > Or > > > double-Dutch. > > > > > > Perhaps your disclaimer could consist of "Legal disclaimer > > - you must > > > read this" in every relevant language, each linked to a web > > page which > > > contains the text in that language. > > > > > > Or write it in Esperanto. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 18 June 2003 14:07 > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups > > > > > > > > > That's not funny !! 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