That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always encouraged
people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox anytime they need somewhere
to receive email to be viewed by people who already had a mailbox.  In
5.5, PFs worked pretty much flawlessly.  In 2000, they're terrible.  The
rules just stop working intermittently.  The PFs that receive mostly
outside mail are now posts, so the rules don't work at all on those
anymore.  The user role permissions are finally cleaned up so that
Exchange 2000 can interpret them.  We only have replicas on one of our
2000 servers now since replication caused too much latency.  Sometimes,
even though we have owner permissions on all of the PFs, if we use
Outlook 2002 to view the properties, we're told we don't have
permission, but if we view them in OL2000, we can make whatever changes
an owner should be able to make.  Searching for something in PFs used to
be a breeze when they were on our 5.5 servers, now, you may or may not
find what you're looking for even though you know it's in there.

We're getting to the point that it would be easier to create mailboxes
for the PFs that we constantly get called on, the ones with rules that
stop working, mostly, and that's such a waste to have to create a
mailbox when all you really need is a PF.  I'd guess we got maybe 10 PF
calls in the 5 years we've been running Exchange for actual problems
with the server, not the usual, user doesn't understand the permissions
calls, and now that we've moved our PFs to E2K, we get at least 10 calls
a week with PF server issues, if not more.  We've turned logging up to
highest on everything to do with PFs and nothing ever shows up in the
logs to give us a clue as to why they sometimes work and sometimes
don't.  When the forwarding rules stop working, a server restart is the
only thing that fixes it.  I'm really beginning to hate PFs.  When I
went to MEC2000, in one of the classes, they said that in E2K, you'd be
able to change permissions on PFs without replacing permissions - what
happened to that?  Wouldn't that be helpful when you have thousands of
PFs?  I know, PFAdmin, which may or may not work correctly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


The line is that it was actually broken in 5.5 and they "fixed" it in
E2K.

Why there can't be a choice between Post type public folders and Note
(email message) type public folders I don't understand.  Actually I do -
$$$.  There /could/ be a choice if enough people griped about it.  At
this point, E2K3 is pretty much in the can and so it won't change much
there.

Since anything "collaborative" about public folders seems headed toward
Sharepoint databases, there's probably not much harm in making PF's
actually do mail correctly going forward.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:31 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

Question then....   Why did they change the functionality?    It worked
in 5.5







Joshua Morgan
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


1. The script (which is a slightly modified version of
http://www.cdolive.com/changemessageclass.htm) your co-worker found is
designed for the Exchange Event Service which is only provided in
Exchange 2000/2003 for backwards compatibility and I would not recommend
using it with Exchange 2000/2003 due to being not reliable. 2. The issue
you are facing not being able to reply to public folder messages will
neither be fixed with KB817809 nor the script you mentioned or the one
Andy Webb pointed you to. This is a limitation of Outlook Web Access
2000.

<Cheers:Siegfried runat="server" />

Development Lead,

CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application
Experts http://www.cdolive.com
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
> 
> 
> Windows 2000 SP3
> Exchange 2000 SP3
> 
> Looks like Microsoft released this yesterday. 
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817809
> 
> Has anybody had any experience with this issue?  We see it because we 
> are unable to reply or forward a message in a Public Folder when it is

> accessed through OWA. I was wondering if anyone had any workarounds 
> until the SP is released, currently I am troubleshooting issues with 
> this Script that a coworker of mine found online.
> 
http://www.netcomitc.com/post2note/esa.htm

All help is appreciated,
Joshua








Joshua Morgan
Method IQ
Senior Network Engineer
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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