This powertools sounds interesting. When it reads the online backup from the
tape does it need to read the whole thing or can it locate a mailbox,
message etc on the tape and extract it? I tried to find out on the website
but it's not exactly clear as to whether you can do this...

We've had to do a few recovery restores to get back mailboxes in the past
and while this is dead easy, it takes hours to restore the IS from tape. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 30 July 2003 17:50
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> 
> Right in that case the latest version of PowerTools is able 
> to read the backup tape and get the priv.edb file directly 
> from the Online Backup. Note I wrote online backup not 
> offline backup. I don't know how this works as well use 
> Netbackup but that is the way it is supposed to work, if not 
> then call Ontrack support. You are never going to be able to 
> backup the priv.edb unless you stop the information store 
> which is not a good idea. If it can't read the tape directly 
> then you would need to do an online restore to a separate 
> server where the priv.edb will be located and you can then 
> use PowerTools to access it. We have evaluated PowerTools and 
> were not overly impressed it couldn't read priv.edb files if 
> the database had been under load and created lots of 
> transaction logs. I believe a newer version currently in beta 
> and to be released in September may work better.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 30 July 2003 17:39
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> 
> Bingo,
> 
> That's the one...
> 
> We were tryin to back-up the PRIV.EDB for easier access by 
> the utility. But, we were sure that you can't directly 
> back-up the PRIV.EDB.  Just trying to quell an argument with 
> one my guys, and needed to make sure that you weren't able to 
> backup the PRIV.EDB without stopping the services.
> 
> Thanks
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> That is not possible you can't do a file backup of the 
> databases files they are locked open unless you stop the IS. 
> What app are you trying to use to read the edb files is it 
> Ontrack's Power Tools?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 30 July 2003 17:30
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> 
> We are ticking off the option for the Information Store, but 
> have now modified the job to backup the PRIV.EDB as well.  
> Only reason we're doing this is because we would like to have 
> the actual PRIV.EDB in a backup media for access by one of 
> our 3rd party applications that can access the PRIV.EDB, and 
> extract mailboxes or actual messages.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> No, you don't have to stop the services.
> 
> Please clarify how you are using veritas; i.e. are you 
> looking on the relevant drive and ticking priv.edb as a file 
> to backup? If so, this won't work, you need to tick 
> 'Microsoft Exchange Information Store' in the veritas 
> directory tree. If this doesn't appear then your exchange 
> agent isn't installed properly.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 30 July 2003 17:16
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Well, actually we are running veritas with the exchange
> > agent, only thing is that the PRIV.EDB file is skipped.  I 
> > thought that in order to backup the PRIV.EDB file you have to 
> > stop the exchange services?
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > Paul
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > Oh, the backup won't cause any problems.  Not that it would
> > be of any use...
> > 
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:14 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > It is quite possible to do a backup of Exchange 5.5 WITHOUT
> > stopping the services.  You either use NTBackup, or use a 3rd 
> > party backup utility with an Exchange Agent.  If you decide 
> > to not use either of those 2 methods, you sure as heck better 
> > stop the Exchange services first, otherwise you will be 
> > attempting to back up an open database file as a flat file.  
> > Not good! 
> > 
> > 
> > Ben Winzenz
> > Network Engineer
> > Gardner & White
> > (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted
> > At: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> > Conversation: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > First, wanted to say that you guys have always been a great
> > help in the past.  I have a simple, but probably dumb 
> > question.  I need some ammo though before I get back to one 
> > of my employees about what he's doing. Can someone just 
> > verify what I'm saying....... It is not possible to back-up 
> > the PRIV.EDB files on Exchange 5.5 unless you stop the 
> > Exchange services right?  One of my guys is trying to run a 
> > veritas backup that includes the PRIV.EDB file, and the file 
> > is skipped during the back-up operation.  I advised him as to 
> > why it does this, and how to correctly do it.  He still 
> > swears that it's veritas software screwing up...
> > 
> > Any help would be great,
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Paul
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > (FYI the mailbox needs Owner rights.)  So if the EventConfig
> > permissions are set, reinstall the AutoAccept script on the 
> > mailbox and you should be able
> > to test it immediately.   If that doesn't work, try stopping and
> > starting
> > the Event service again and retest.   
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > I found it and set the permissions.  I suppose it takes time
> > to synch it up..
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> > I am fairly new at AutoAccept utilities... Where do I look
> > for the EventConfig folder?  Sorry.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:26 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mike.   Have you set up the client permissions for the 
> > mailbox in the
> > EventConfig folder?   I've forgotten to do that on 
> occasion.    And I
> > think
> > I learned the hard way that if this step was missed, you need
> > to uninstall the Autoaccept script again, set up the 
> > EventConfig settings, then reinstall the script.
> > 
> > Rob Sargent
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:57 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Ed,
> > 
> > Thanks.  I thought that was the case, so I deleted the
> > AutoAccept folder on the resource. I then ran the AutoAccept 
> > utility script on that new resource. I checked the event 
> > Service and it was running.  Nothing happened.
> > 
> > I then stopped and started the service again.  To no avail.
> > Nothing happens.  Help!!!!
> > 
> > Thanks... Ed, you are the best, or so they say!!!
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 12:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > A script does not move with a mailbox.  You must reinstall
> > the script on the new server and ensure that the Event 
> > Service is running.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Mitchell Mike
> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 6:16 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP4 
> > 
> > I moved server of my resource mailboxes for one server to
> > another.  Once I did this my Auto Accept script stopped 
> > working.  I ran the Auto Accept script on these resources 
> > again, and again no auto accepting? What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Mike Mitchell
> > Systems email Administrator
> > Alverno Information Services
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
> > 
> > "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by
> > the moments that take our breath away."
> > 
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