I agree with Michael, the documentation is not clear but I am sure it just
eases the process of copying the information from tape to hard drive.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 July 2003 18:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working


You have to copy the whole edb to hard disk first. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working

This powertools sounds interesting. When it reads the online backup from
the tape does it need to read the whole thing or can it locate a
mailbox, message etc on the tape and extract it? I tried to find out on
the website but it's not exactly clear as to whether you can do this...

We've had to do a few recovery restores to get back mailboxes in the
past and while this is dead easy, it takes hours to restore the IS from
tape. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 30 July 2003 17:50
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> 
> Right in that case the latest version of PowerTools is able to read 
> the backup tape and get the priv.edb file directly from the Online 
> Backup. Note I wrote online backup not offline backup. I don't know 
> how this works as well use Netbackup but that is the way it is 
> supposed to work, if not then call Ontrack support. You are never 
> going to be able to backup the priv.edb unless you stop the 
> information store which is not a good idea. If it can't read the tape 
> directly then you would need to do an online restore to a separate 
> server where the priv.edb will be located and you can then use 
> PowerTools to access it. We have evaluated PowerTools and were not 
> overly impressed it couldn't read priv.edb files if the database had 
> been under load and created lots of transaction logs. I believe a 
> newer version currently in beta and to be released in September may 
> work better.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 30 July 2003 17:39
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> 
> Bingo,
> 
> That's the one...
> 
> We were tryin to back-up the PRIV.EDB for easier access by the 
> utility. But, we were sure that you can't directly back-up the 
> PRIV.EDB.  Just trying to quell an argument with one my guys, and 
> needed to make sure that you weren't able to backup the PRIV.EDB 
> without stopping the services.
> 
> Thanks
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> That is not possible you can't do a file backup of the databases files

> they are locked open unless you stop the IS.
> What app are you trying to use to read the edb files is it Ontrack's 
> Power Tools?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 30 July 2003 17:30
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> 
> We are ticking off the option for the Information Store, but have now 
> modified the job to backup the PRIV.EDB as well.
> Only reason we're doing this is because we would like to have the 
> actual PRIV.EDB in a backup media for access by one of our 3rd party 
> applications that can access the PRIV.EDB, and extract mailboxes or 
> actual messages.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> 
> No, you don't have to stop the services.
> 
> Please clarify how you are using veritas; i.e. are you looking on the 
> relevant drive and ticking priv.edb as a file to backup? If so, this 
> won't work, you need to tick 'Microsoft Exchange Information Store' in

> the veritas directory tree. If this doesn't appear then your exchange 
> agent isn't installed properly.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 30 July 2003 17:16
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Well, actually we are running veritas with the exchange agent, only 
> > thing is that the PRIV.EDB file is skipped.  I thought that in order

> > to backup the PRIV.EDB file you have to stop the exchange services?
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > Paul
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > Oh, the backup won't cause any problems.  Not that it would be of 
> > any use...
> > 
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:14 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > It is quite possible to do a backup of Exchange 5.5 WITHOUT stopping

> > the services.  You either use NTBackup, or use a 3rd party backup 
> > utility with an Exchange Agent.  If you decide to not use either of 
> > those 2 methods, you sure as heck better stop the Exchange services 
> > first, otherwise you will be attempting to back up an open database 
> > file as a flat file.
> > Not good! 
> > 
> > 
> > Ben Winzenz
> > Network Engineer
> > Gardner & White
> > (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted
> > At: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> > Conversation: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > First, wanted to say that you guys have always been a great help in 
> > the past.  I have a simple, but probably dumb question.  I need some

> > ammo though before I get back to one of my employees about what he's

> > doing. Can someone just verify what I'm saying....... It is not 
> > possible to back-up the PRIV.EDB files on Exchange 5.5 unless you 
> > stop the Exchange services right?  One of my guys is trying to run a

> > veritas backup that includes the PRIV.EDB file, and the file is 
> > skipped during the back-up operation.  I advised him as to why it 
> > does this, and how to correctly do it.  He still swears that it's 
> > veritas software screwing up...
> > 
> > Any help would be great,
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Paul
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > (FYI the mailbox needs Owner rights.)  So if the EventConfig 
> > permissions are set, reinstall the AutoAccept script on the mailbox 
> > and you should be able
> > to test it immediately.   If that doesn't work, try stopping and
> > starting
> > the Event service again and retest.   
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > I found it and set the permissions.  I suppose it takes time to 
> > synch it up..
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> > I am fairly new at AutoAccept utilities... Where do I look for the 
> > EventConfig folder?  Sorry.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:26 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mike.   Have you set up the client permissions for the 
> > mailbox in the
> > EventConfig folder?   I've forgotten to do that on 
> occasion.    And I
> > think
> > I learned the hard way that if this step was missed, you need to 
> > uninstall the Autoaccept script again, set up the EventConfig 
> > settings, then reinstall the script.
> > 
> > Rob Sargent
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:57 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Ed,
> > 
> > Thanks.  I thought that was the case, so I deleted the AutoAccept 
> > folder on the resource. I then ran the AutoAccept utility script on 
> > that new resource. I checked the event Service and it was running.  
> > Nothing happened.
> > 
> > I then stopped and started the service again.  To no avail.
> > Nothing happens.  Help!!!!
> > 
> > Thanks... Ed, you are the best, or so they say!!!
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 12:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > A script does not move with a mailbox.  You must reinstall the 
> > script on the new server and ensure that the Event Service is 
> > running.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Mitchell Mike
> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 6:16 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
> > 
> > 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP4 
> > 
> > I moved server of my resource mailboxes for one server to another.  
> > Once I did this my Auto Accept script stopped working.  I ran the 
> > Auto Accept script on these resources again, and again no auto 
> > accepting? What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Mike Mitchell
> > Systems email Administrator
> > Alverno Information Services
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
> > 
> > "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the 
> > moments that take our breath away."
> > 
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