Thanks Steve.

We are building the new servers tomorrow and applying the Sp's + rollups.
I'll make sure that hotfix is in there.

G.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG


> Glenn,
>
> I have seen this exact issue as well and the SIS hotfix does resolve it
> (after applying it and then running ISINTEG on each DB).  When you run
> ISINTEG without the fix it will temporarily resolve the discrepancy
> between the "real" mailbox size and what is reported (thus the sudden
> mailbox size increases), but it will come back until the SIS hf is
> applied.
>
>
> > Jason,
> >
> > I did find the article in the end, IIRC you transposed some of the
numbers
> > in the article ID.
> >
> > IIRC the article is more in reference to a bug in the SIS component,
where a
> > message received by multiple users on the same store is modified by one
or
> > more users and the size / references are not updated correctly (or
something
> > like that).  It certainly could be one of the problems we are having,
> > however the level of corruption (in the order of several hundred
thousand
> > messages in one store alone) points to something more fundamental.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kelley, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:06 AM
> > Subject: RE: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG
> >
> >
> > It wasn't a premier article.  I had pulled up the article when I sent
> > the e-mail but now I can't find it either.  It's not even on the list of
> > bugs that the rollup hotfix addresses.
> >
> > Basically the mailbox size in ESM is different than what outlook tells
> > the user and when you run an isinteg the mailbox size in ESM is larger,
> > more accurate to what outlook says it is.
> >
> > Sorry I didn't send the full link initially
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 2:51 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG
> >
> >
> > Is that a premier only article ? cant seem to find it on technet.
> >
> > G.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kelley, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG
> >
> >
> > Check out Q article Q818830
> >
> > We applied the single instance store hotfix before it was part of the
> > Sept hotfix rollup.  When we ran isinteg we had many mailboxes jump in
> > size.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
> > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:54 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Recently we have been having some strange behaviours with user
> > mailboxes, such as users being denied access to folders in their
> > mailboxes, rules disappearing etc.  After running ISINTEG on all stores
> > (approx 20), a number of errors were found and fixed...all good so far.
> > After remounting the stores everything looked fine....until the next
> > morning when people came back to work.
> >
> > A number of mailboxes had suddenly a LOT more mail in their inboxes and
> > deleted items folders, some users over 200mb worth, which threw a lot of
> > the organisation over the store limits and stopped them sending and
> > receiving mail.  We temporarily increased the store limits to cope with
> > the problem, however we are still at a loss to explain what happened.
> >
> > After speaking with PSS, they are also at a bit of a loss as well. I've
> > also checked Technet and other online resources, but no mention is made
> > of this sort of problem.
> >
> > - Some users had no effect on their mailboxes
> > - Some users had lots of mail return to either their deleted items or
> > inbox (we are surmising that the way the message was originally deleted
> > has determined where it came back to - shift-delete - back to inbox,
> > deleted via deleted items - back to delete items).
> > - The restored messages don't seem to be from the previous days. In all
> > of the cases we have confirmed, messages deleted the couple of days
> > previous didn't come back, but messages deleted prior to that did come
> > back.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this behaviour before and could possibly explain what
> > happened ? As with all of these things, the people most affected were
> > senior management, and they are screaming for a satisfactory response.
> >
> > Config:
> > Windows 2000 SP2 with hotfixes
> > Exchange 2000 SP2 - 6 Servers, 2 badly affected, 1 with minor effects, 3
> > not affected at all Trend Scanmail installed on all servers 1 Storage
> > group on each server, between 2 and 4 databases per storage group
> >
> > On the servers that were affected, only one or two of the 4 stores was
> > affected.
> >
> > As far as we can determine, either Exchange wasn't properly cleaning out
> > deleted items from mailboxes (but was reducing the size of mailboxes as
> > users were under the mailbox limit cap until the messages were
> > restored), OR something happened and exchange replayed some of the
> > transaction logs restoring old messages (but in that case all of the
> > stores in the storage group should have been affected, but weren't)
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Glenn Corbett
> >
> >
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