I have a Thunder Grey truck. -----Original Message----- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Anyone know where MEC is this year? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? > The one about hijacking threads and thinking the world revolves around you? > Try googling on "Net etiquette" or "Netiquette". > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mon 15/09/2003 21:43 > To: Exchange Discussions > Cc: > Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? > > > > Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman > Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? > > > Hear hear. It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking > kickbacks > and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money. Doctors > need > a code of ethics because of the nature of their career-path; it's so > amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of > course). > You tell me where we have such power. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? > > > The problem with Deckler's "ethics" argument, as Andy pointed out, is > that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet > then you are automatically unethical. Equally absurd is his assertion > that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a > medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in > Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder, > ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some > pharmaceutical on it. > > I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in > downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with > "Lexis/Nexis" and "Bank of Hawaii" umbrellas. Are we to believe that a > tax attorney with a "Bank of Hawaii" umbrella is unethical because he's > going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their > investment accounts at BankOH? > > Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an > unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and > thus unable to properly represent any other product. A ludicrous > assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't > know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my > MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products. > Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple > of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of > Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces. > > The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect > shop. I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave > me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed. I have Symantec hats, > pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed. > Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for > receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a > new projector in about 3 years. If I do, I'll consider Epson along with > several other brands. I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed. > > Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that > some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo > software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I > don't believe is the best solution. > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 > Director of Information Services > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!? > > maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and > it looks like this to me > > if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or > it guy, probably everyone would say doctor > > ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and > get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional > governing body and not have silly things like "microsoft" certification > > that would be the equivalent of having "pfizer" certification as a > doctor, which dont make no sense > > obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i > have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to > me > > > > Same old bag of gas. "IT consultants are all unprofessional except > for me." > > > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > .+--xm ,) r(뺷 \ y' i ) l+-r䖉r W{jx Vmyzr vi _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hاPi0"(q_jmg"{^zmٝZIb( \ez{^\zױj zV+!Nrzf%y{!jx 0y a1r֝)Zvh &
