But I want it to, our updates are scheduled for 4 in the morning with a 1
min retry, so when they boot it will check right then and there.  If it's
going to reboot the users knows before they can even start anything.  When
we went live with SUS we told the users to start their systems and logon,
then go get their coffee and start their day.  So far we have gotten only
one or two complaints.  The plus side is that we found out what users were
not logging off before they went home....

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how does everyone fight this spam?


If you have downloaded the new .adm file for SUS, you can specify that
if a user is logged on, it will not reboot them.  We had our updates set
to run at noon, and got lots of complaints that they couldn't stop the
reboot.  Since most everyone here (except me) turns off their computers
at night, this works well for us. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-----Original Message-----
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:54 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: how does everyone fight this spam?
Subject: RE: how does everyone fight this spam?


oh I forgot that part, I have actually been very lucky with our users,
since we started to use SUS and we(IT) expressed to them that:
1) all updates are automagic, just turn on your system if it needs to
reboot don't worry it will. :-)
2) no you can't stop it. :-)
3) no Microsoft does not send out the patch via e-mail.
4) yes we are sure that Microsoft doesn't do that, let your mom know she
is incorrect.
5) excuse me but what does your mom do, really that's nice, would she
like some assistance with her next delivery?  I would love to help her
out since she is being so helpful to us.
6) no I won't stop blocking all those important attachments you need to
get, but if you let me know the name, I can scan it and then make sure
it gets to you (strangely I haven't gotten many request for elfbowl yet.
7) your delete key is magic, press it and those little buggers go away



-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how does everyone fight this spam?


Hit the delete key and educate my users that Microsoft will never send
them a patch via e-mail


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 6:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how does everyone fight this spam?


We exercise the magic delete key, yes it's a manual, however it has been
proven to be very accurate.  We are still looking into some sort of
Anti-Spam product, but it's been pushed down the list of important
things to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: how does everyone fight this spam?


Hi all. We are receiving a lot of these bogus messages every day - "bug
notice", "failure message", "report", "error advice", "bug
announcement", etc. Some of them have a fake Microsoft address in the
from line. They seem to be generated by a virus. Our antivirus programs
(SurfControl and NAVEX) catch and kill the virus, but the messages still
get through. They don't seem to have any consistent subject or From
address...

It seems that other organizations should be affected too, I am just
wondering how others are dealing with these messages.

Thanks!


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